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Day Two
Dec 10, 2008 12:07:23 GMT -5
Post by mmouse9799 on Dec 10, 2008 12:07:23 GMT -5
Umm, the Day already ended little lady. Save it for your goodbye post in the Night thread. I must have missed Idle post with that information then...
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Dec 10, 2008 12:12:16 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Dec 10, 2008 12:12:16 GMT -5
Umm, the Day already ended little lady. Save it for your goodbye post in the Night thread. I must have missed Idle post with that information then... Ah, culture clash. Sorry. Where I come from (meaning my games, and, I think, the majority of games on this board) Day's end with or without mods. If you are saying you are unlynchable or have extra information or something...have at it.
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Dec 10, 2008 12:15:42 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Dec 10, 2008 12:15:42 GMT -5
What I am confuzzled about is why both mice claimed with no pressure on them. Maybe we will learn something from the mmouseie lynch.
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Dec 10, 2008 12:16:57 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Dec 10, 2008 12:16:57 GMT -5
What I am confuzzled about is why both mice claimed with no pressure on them. Maybe we will learn something from the mmouseie lynch. God I hope so. Am I alone in thinking that the game we are playing in makes very little sense?
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Dec 10, 2008 12:21:32 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 10, 2008 12:21:32 GMT -5
Other than the change in win condition, what else has been out of the ordinary?
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Dec 10, 2008 12:25:44 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Dec 10, 2008 12:25:44 GMT -5
What I am confuzzled about is why both mice claimed with no pressure on them. Maybe we will learn something from the mmouseie lynch. If mmouse9799 turns up scum, that'll certainly lend a lot of creedence to 's theory.
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Dec 10, 2008 12:26:46 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Dec 10, 2008 12:26:46 GMT -5
Other than the change in win condition, what else has been out of the ordinary? Well that would be enough for me. But also the out of nowhere claims, and yesterDay's role claim. The role that Bufftabby claimed was nuts and practically worthless. The role that Mitey has claimed is equally nuts. MMouse seems to think that she can't be lynched... What doesn't seem weird about this game?
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Day Two
Dec 10, 2008 12:28:46 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 10, 2008 12:28:46 GMT -5
Bufftabby's role was the most convoluted and useless role we've seen outside of the Gastard Mod game, the blizzard was highly unusual even if the win con hadn't changed, and Idle said himself that this game would be "goofy". The way I see it, the mod might not be deliberatly aggrivating us or making it up as he goes, but things are gonna be wacky, so I'm gonna do things not expected, to see if I can decipher the code. I tried with the voting. Idle shot me down. I switched back. I fail to see how that didn't compute.
Mitey Mouse, could you try an experiment? Tonight, could you try telling Idle that you focus your powers on not changing the weather? Maybe, if you deliberate avoid action, you won't have to take it.
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Dec 10, 2008 12:31:17 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Dec 10, 2008 12:31:17 GMT -5
Mitey Mouse, could you try an experiment? Tonight, could you try telling Idle that you focus your powers on not changing the weather? Maybe, if you deliberate avoid action, you won't have to take it. While I appreciate the idea, I don't think that is going to tell us anything. How are we to believe Mitey? If nothing happens and it isn't because of her then we won't know it, and if something happens all she has to say is "well I tried" and if she really didn't try again we won't know it. I liked your voting for Idle idea though. Good call on that one.
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Dec 10, 2008 12:43:49 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 10, 2008 12:43:49 GMT -5
... I'm gonna do things not expected, to see if I can decipher the code. I tried with the voting. Idle shot me down. I switched back. I fail to see how that didn't compute. I disagree that all that stuff was odd, but this part struck me as odd. IIRC, didn't your vote go Mitey Mouse --> Idle --> mmouse? Mitey Mouse, could you try an experiment? Tonight, could you try telling Idle that you focus your powers on not changing the weather? Maybe, if you deliberate avoid action, you won't have to take it. Didn't Mitey already say that they could or could not change the weather, and that that was irrespective of what the win condition was doing? I liked your voting for Idle idea though. Good call on that one. Do you really think that?
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Dec 10, 2008 12:44:02 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 10, 2008 12:44:02 GMT -5
Mitey Mouse, could you try an experiment? Tonight, could you try telling Idle that you focus your powers on not changing the weather? Maybe, if you deliberate avoid action, you won't have to take it. While I appreciate the idea, I don't think that is going to tell us anything. How are we to believe Mitey? If nothing happens and it isn't because of her then we won't know it, and if something happens all she has to say is "well I tried" and if she really didn't try again we won't know it. Well, it certainly beats my original plan, which would have been for her to express every type of emotion in a single post, to counteract her excess emotions. So: Plan No 3 (i.e. Hoopy Frood's idea). Mitey Mouse, you said you could request a particular type of weather, correct? Try asking for an outlandish but non-lethal weather pattern, like a rain of lizards or clouds in the shape of obscenities. Or, since Idle told you you couldn't kill, you could make a tornado, or earthquake, or something. But say what you're gonna ask here before you do it, so we can be sure you're Mallow.
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Dec 10, 2008 12:46:24 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 10, 2008 12:46:24 GMT -5
... I'm gonna do things not expected, to see if I can decipher the code. I tried with the voting. Idle shot me down. I switched back. I fail to see how that didn't compute. I disagree that all that stuff was odd, but this part struck me as odd. IIRC, didn't your vote go Mitey Mouse --> Idle --> mmouse? Yes, I did. By 'back', I meant back to a player as opposed to a mod, rather than back to the state it was in before. Is it just me, or are you spending an inordinate amount of time looking for "gotchas"? First it was the night lynch, then the Vanilla is not Vanilla, now it's which form of back I'm using. Why?
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Dec 10, 2008 12:48:51 GMT -5
Post by Rysto on Dec 10, 2008 12:48:51 GMT -5
Wait, is the Day over? I guess it doesn't matter 'cause we can talk strategy at Night. I have a question for everyone. How many people, upon reading my first post about my Bob-omb theory, understood what I was talking about. Here's the post, if you don't remember: The more mmouse talks the more convinced I become that she's a Bob-omb. Maybe we should just leave her alone? Once a Bob-omb's fuse had lit, it would chase Mario around for a while before exploding. So long as Mario stayed out of the blast radius, he'd be fine. Maybe that's what we're meant to do? What I'm most interested in hearing from everybody is: 1) Did you understand that I thought that mmouse was a bomb(ie kills somebody when lynched)? 2) Did you understand that I thought that mmouse was scum, not PFK? 3) Did you understand that I thought that if we left mmouse alone, she'd eventually die on her own? 4) Did you understand that I thought that if she died on her own, that her bomb power would not activate(i.e. she wouldn't kill anybody else)? And yes, I definitely have a point to this.
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Dec 10, 2008 12:54:44 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 10, 2008 12:54:44 GMT -5
Wait, is the Day over? I guess it doesn't matter 'cause we can talk strategy at Night. I have a question for everyone. How many people, upon reading my first post about my Bob-omb theory, understood what I was talking about. Here's the post, if you don't remember: The more mmouse talks the more convinced I become that she's a Bob-omb. Maybe we should just leave her alone? Once a Bob-omb's fuse had lit, it would chase Mario around for a while before exploding. So long as Mario stayed out of the blast radius, he'd be fine. Maybe that's what we're meant to do? What I'm most interested in hearing from everybody is: 1) Did you understand that I thought that mmouse was a bomb(ie kills somebody when lynched)? 2) Did you understand that I thought that mmouse was scum, not PFK? 3) Did you understand that I thought that if we left mmouse alone, she'd eventually die on her own? 4) Did you understand that I thought that if she died on her own, that her bomb power would not activate(i.e. she wouldn't kill anybody else)? And yes, I definitely have a point to this. I understood 1 and 3. But I didn't think that you were right at the time. I'm not sure what to think now...
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Dec 10, 2008 12:55:29 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Dec 10, 2008 12:55:29 GMT -5
I liked your voting for Idle idea though. Good call on that one. Do you really think that? Yeah, because it let us know just how big of a bastard Idle plans on being. He may say it's not a bastard mod game, but from what I can tell it's really toeing that line. I don't know if actually lynching Idle would have been a good idea, but spoting that Idle had included himself in the votecount and testing what would happen if you voted for him, I do think that was a good idea.
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Dec 10, 2008 12:56:58 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Dec 10, 2008 12:56:58 GMT -5
I don't know if actually lynching Idle would have been a good idea, but spoting that Idle had included himself in the votecount and testing what would happen if you voted for him, I do think that was a good idea. Especially considering he'd earlier stated that he wasn't counting votes for non-players...
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Day Two
Dec 10, 2008 12:59:02 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Dec 10, 2008 12:59:02 GMT -5
1) Did you understand that I thought that mmouse was a bomb(ie kills somebody when lynched)? 2) Did you understand that I thought that mmouse was scum, not PFK? 3) Did you understand that I thought that if we left mmouse alone, she'd eventually die on her own? 4) Did you understand that I thought that if she died on her own, that her bomb power would not activate(i.e. she wouldn't kill anybody else)? And yes, I definitely have a point to this. I got 1&2, but I didn't necessrily agree with your reasoning or conclusions. I didn't get 3 or 4 though, but that could just be because I have been a tad distracted by real life for the past couple of days.
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Dec 10, 2008 13:04:31 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Dec 10, 2008 13:04:31 GMT -5
What I'm most interested in hearing from everybody is: 1) Did you understand that I thought that mmouse was a bomb(ie kills somebody when lynched)? 2) Did you understand that I thought that mmouse was scum, not PFK? 3) Did you understand that I thought that if we left mmouse alone, she'd eventually die on her own? 4) Did you understand that I thought that if she died on her own, that her bomb power would not activate(i.e. she wouldn't kill anybody else)? And yes, I definitely have a point to this. Yes I did understand most of that. And your point is going to be what if your scenario turns out to be true? I thought you were making a WAG and I bet others did too. If all of your speculations turn out to be true I'll be wondering if you had extra information. I don't even know if mmouse is a bomb, much less a bob-bomb.
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Dec 10, 2008 13:07:41 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 10, 2008 13:07:41 GMT -5
Is it just me, or are you spending an inordinate amount of time looking for "gotchas"? First it was the night lynch, then the Vanilla is not Vanilla, now it's which form of back I'm using. Why? You haven't played with me much before, have you?
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Day Two
Dec 10, 2008 13:09:00 GMT -5
Post by NAF1138 on Dec 10, 2008 13:09:00 GMT -5
Is it just me, or are you spending an inordinate amount of time looking for "gotchas"? First it was the night lynch, then the Vanilla is not Vanilla, now it's which form of back I'm using. Why? You haven't played with me much before, have you? Is that actually possible? How long was your hiatus Rugger?
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Dec 10, 2008 13:11:33 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Dec 10, 2008 13:11:33 GMT -5
What I'm most interested in hearing from everybody is: 1) Did you understand that I thought that mmouse was a bomb(ie kills somebody when lynched)? 2) Did you understand that I thought that mmouse was scum, not PFK? 3) Did you understand that I thought that if we left mmouse alone, she'd eventually die on her own? 4) Did you understand that I thought that if she died on her own, that her bomb power would not activate(i.e. she wouldn't kill anybody else)? And yes, I definitely have a point to this. To the best of my recollection (and at least when rereading it now) I understood all of them. I might not have agreed with all of them as more than a theory, but I think they were all pretty clear.
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Dec 10, 2008 13:13:10 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Dec 10, 2008 13:13:10 GMT -5
Wait, is the Day over? I guess it doesn't matter 'cause we can talk strategy at Night. I have a question for everyone. How many people, upon reading my first post about my Bob-omb theory, understood what I was talking about. Here's the post, if you don't remember: The more mmouse talks the more convinced I become that she's a Bob-omb. Maybe we should just leave her alone? Once a Bob-omb's fuse had lit, it would chase Mario around for a while before exploding. So long as Mario stayed out of the blast radius, he'd be fine. Maybe that's what we're meant to do? What I'm most interested in hearing from everybody is: 1) Did you understand that I thought that mmouse was a bomb(ie kills somebody when lynched)? 2) Did you understand that I thought that mmouse was scum, not PFK? 3) Did you understand that I thought that if we left mmouse alone, she'd eventually die on her own? 4) Did you understand that I thought that if she died on her own, that her bomb power would not activate(i.e. she wouldn't kill anybody else)? And yes, I definitely have a point to this. I understood you, I just don't agree that 3 and 4 are very likely. --FCOD
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Dec 10, 2008 13:15:04 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 10, 2008 13:15:04 GMT -5
1) Did you understand that I thought that mmouse was a bomb(ie kills somebody when lynched)? Yes Yes. A bomb makes little sense as a PFK. No, because, even assuming your theory is right, we have no way of knowing what started the trigger. Yes. But your guessing she was a bomb-omb doesn't make her one. And yes, I definitely have a point to this.[/quote]
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Dec 10, 2008 13:15:06 GMT -5
Post by mmouse9799 on Dec 10, 2008 13:15:06 GMT -5
Other than the change in win condition, what else has been out of the ordinary? Well that would be enough for me. But also the out of nowhere claims, and yesterDay's role claim. The role that Bufftabby claimed was nuts and practically worthless. The role that Mitey has claimed is equally nuts. MMouse seems to think that she can't be lynched... What doesn't seem weird about this game? What makes it seem like I think I can't be lynched? I'm curious about how you came to that conclusion.
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Dec 10, 2008 13:16:38 GMT -5
Post by mmouse9799 on Dec 10, 2008 13:16:38 GMT -5
I don't even know if mmouse is a bomb, much less a bob-bomb. I think I missed something here. What's the difference between a bomb and a bob-bomb?
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Dec 10, 2008 13:17:01 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 10, 2008 13:17:01 GMT -5
Is that actually possible? How long was your hiatus Rugger? Not very long. But in every game I've ever played, I've looked for inconsistencies in people's individual posts. Depending on how much time I've had during the day determines how often it happens. That comment was mostly tongue in cheek.
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Dec 10, 2008 13:20:27 GMT -5
Post by Chucara on Dec 10, 2008 13:20:27 GMT -5
To the best of my recollection (and at least when rereading it now) I understood all of them. I might not have agreed with all of them as more than a theory, but I think they were all pretty clear. Scratch that.. I didn't catch #2 from the first reading.
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Dec 10, 2008 13:20:29 GMT -5
Post by Rysto on Dec 10, 2008 13:20:29 GMT -5
I understood you, I just don't agree that 3 and 4 are very likely. I'm not bringing this up to bitch about mmouse getting lynched. The timing is very important in my question. I want to know whether my theory was clear as of my first post on the subject, before any of my subsequent clarifications.
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Dec 10, 2008 13:26:19 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 10, 2008 13:26:19 GMT -5
All of the possibilities you advance, Rysto, were on my mind along with a host of other possibilities.
I don't think anyone but possibly Idle knows what the difference between a Bomb role as commonly utilized in the game of Mafia, and how the SMB character of a bob-ombs might intersect with that role.
We don't yet have any confirmable bearings except that there are items (berries) that seem to trigger potential powers (Vig). Imho, until we have some confirmation-by-death to match with statements made during the game, our expectations and assumptions should be taken with a grain of salt.
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Dec 10, 2008 13:27:03 GMT -5
Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 10, 2008 13:27:03 GMT -5
I think the understanding of your theory is directly related to the readers understanding of the SMB world.
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