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Post by sinjin on Dec 15, 2008 22:35:54 GMT -5
But he didn't, IMHO. He posted that he got the PM in the above quoted post. As Kat says, maybe he got a PM but not the PM. Hahahahaha death by article. And to think when we were playing Firefly (my first game) I thought this was an incredibly silly distinction to make.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 15, 2008 22:53:59 GMT -5
Are you trying to say Cookies is the investigator?
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Post by sinjin on Dec 15, 2008 23:07:32 GMT -5
Are you trying to say Cookies is the investigator? No, but she knows who the scum investigator is. [oog]Sorry, fluff[/oog] [oog]Really not sorry at all. [/oog]
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Post by Gir! on Dec 15, 2008 23:08:25 GMT -5
No, no, no. "Cookies" is a plural word, so that should be "Cookies are the...investigator...s"??
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Post by peekercpa on Dec 15, 2008 23:09:21 GMT -5
Everybody voting for peeker should note that the above quoted post was posted before the squabble with SpEd. And everyone not voting for him should realize this is the SECOND time he apparently failed to receive a town PM. We went through this yesterday at the beginning of the Day as well, only then it got ignored/forgotten in the admitted PFK dealio. You betcha. Quoting a PM is a second time. Whoops your math is as bad as you logic. I already said I got the same PM on day one that was posted in the niller role. So at least be honest and make your second a big fat zero. At keast that way you would be honest instead of making shit up. And BTW, one of thr first three votes on me is not town. Gotta travel in the am but will try to check in on Wednesday. When I show up town. Make sure you remember that. Peace guys. I may have mis spoken but it was a town mistake and now look at those first three votes.
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Post by KidVermicious on Dec 15, 2008 23:24:56 GMT -5
I am so frickin sorry, guys. I won't bore you all with details, but it's been a rough couple days. I'm just now caught up, I think. Re: Mitey - I think the color-weather we have now should indicate that the weather is not tied to our WC, because if your weather-controlling player is allowed to pick truly random and off-the-wall weathers, how are you, the mod, going to anticipate which weather equals which win condition? This doesn't say anything to me about whether or not she's controlling the win condition in addition to the weather, tho. The bugger thats sticking in my mind is, why the hell is she saddled with color that ties her to the changing win condition? Something doesn't add up. Re: Peek - I saw several folks continuing to reference his intelligibility... WTF? There's been absolutely nothing wrong with his recent posting style, it's been quite legible and certainly not anti-town. As one of those who requested that he change it up a bit, I'm certainly grateful, and I going to have to cast my patented Arched Eyebrow o' Doom[/color] on all y'all that are continuing to hound him about it. One question, Peek - could you state your case against Nanook, please? I must have missed something. <FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Yaknow, NAF made a comment yesterday that the game was basically unplayable if the win condition kept changing, and he woke up dead Today. I still don't see the changing of the win condition as being in any way pro-town. I find it odd that the win condition changed -and- NAF woke up dead. Err, didn't wake up. Santo, if you think there's something to who the scum are killing, why didn't you question Mhayes' death?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 15, 2008 23:25:28 GMT -5
I see how it is... At least I managed to make it through Day 1 without picking up a vote this game. I'm almost positive that is a first.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 15, 2008 23:51:19 GMT -5
Seriously though, this game seems to have way more than its fair share of isolated single word-use debate.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 15, 2008 23:56:16 GMT -5
I am so frickin sorry, guys. I won't bore you all with details, but it's been a rough couple days. I'm just now caught up, I think. Re: Mitey - I think the color-weather we have now should indicate that the weather is not tied to our WC, because if your weather-controlling player is allowed to pick truly random and off-the-wall weathers, how are you, the mod, going to anticipate which weather equals which win condition? This doesn't say anything to me about whether or not she's controlling the win condition in addition to the weather, tho. The bugger thats sticking in my mind is, why the hell is she saddled with color that ties her to the changing win condition? Something doesn't add up. Re: Peek - I saw several folks continuing to reference his intelligibility... WTF? There's been absolutely nothing wrong with his recent posting style, it's been quite legible and certainly not anti-town. As one of those who requested that he change it up a bit, I'm certainly grateful, and I going to have to cast my patented Arched Eyebrow o' Doom[/color] on all y'all that are continuing to hound him about it. One question, Peek - could you state your case against Nanook, please? I must have missed something. <FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Yaknow, NAF made a comment yesterday that the game was basically unplayable if the win condition kept changing, and he woke up dead Today. I still don't see the changing of the win condition as being in any way pro-town. I find it odd that the win condition changed -and- NAF woke up dead. Err, didn't wake up. Santo, if you think there's something to who the scum are killing, why didn't you question Mhayes' death?[/quote] I posted yesterDay that I couldn't figure out why Idle would saddle a player with the stigma of being associated with some random game dynamic that the player can't control, and the only thing I could think of was as a balancing agent of some kind. That of course assumes that MiteyMouse is telling the truth, and I am inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt for now.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 15, 2008 23:58:45 GMT -5
Santo, if you think there's something to who the scum are killing, why didn't you question Mhayes' death? For the most part, I think trying to figure out why who died and why in a given Night is an exercise in futility. However, NAF was making a pretty blatant indirect threat towards MiteyMallow. It seemed quite coincidental to me, so I pointed it out.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 15, 2008 23:59:53 GMT -5
I posted yesterDay that I couldn't figure out why Idle would saddle a player with the stigma of being associated with some random game dynamic that the player can't control, and the only thing I could think of was as a balancing agent of some kind. That of course assumes that MiteyMouse is telling the truth, and I am inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt for now.Why?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 16, 2008 0:18:09 GMT -5
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 16, 2008 0:18:30 GMT -5
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 16, 2008 0:26:58 GMT -5
I do not remember if I responded directly to that the first time you posted, but I know I've already said it. MiteyMouse knows EXACTLY what Vanilla means. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. She's a her, BTW, and has played several games on FB where Vanilla roles were discussed extensively.
In your analysis above, you explicit state that you're assuming she's town. My question is -why-?
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 16, 2008 0:29:05 GMT -5
And everyone not voting for him should realize this is the SECOND time he apparently failed to receive a town PM. We went through this yesterday at the beginning of the Day as well, only then it got ignored/forgotten in the admitted PFK dealio. But he didn't, IMHO. He posted that he got the PM in the above quoted post. Did you find the minus world?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 16, 2008 0:30:53 GMT -5
I did not say that I'm assuming she's town.
I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt at this point, i.e. not voting for her yesterDay or Today, for all of the reasons in my quoted post.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 16, 2008 0:45:27 GMT -5
I don't do balancing, but it is the one area that might make this possibility might make more sense. Assuming that MiteyMouse is town, if there was some advantage that Idle had given to the scum or PFK that needed to be balanced, would putting the win-condition weather into the Mallow role, could that function enough of a handicap to result in a balance? Maybe I'm parsing that differently than how you mean it, but it sure sounds like you're assuming she's town, to me.
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Post by Santo Rugger on Dec 16, 2008 0:46:40 GMT -5
But he didn't, IMHO. He posted that he got the PM in the above quoted post. Did you find the minus world? The one that's password protected?
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Post by Chucara on Dec 16, 2008 3:23:05 GMT -5
Hmm.. With peekers latest reactions, I'll change my vote. unvote DBIvote peekerThe final straw for me is this: You guys/gals do whatever you deem necessary. I truly don't give a rats. Other than the town is making a mistake. You know I really tried to play this one a little more straight up. And now it will the first time that I get lynched. And to top it off since I am town - I think you guys/gals have taught me a lesson I should have probably been taught long ago. It seems that peeker is threatening to go back to his usual posting style if we lynch him.. He might just be angry because of the upcoming lynch, but I'm picking up a "scum pretending to be nonchalant about the upcoming lynch" vite from him. It's not a lot, but it's enough to push him ahead of DBI
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Post by shaggy on Dec 16, 2008 7:09:52 GMT -5
I'm wondering now if scum got a PM notification that said "MALLOW HAS CHANGED TOWN'S WIN CONDITION!" (or maybe "THE TOWN WIN CONDITION" or the like) and peeker assumed that Town got the identical wording. I had wondered actually something similar but instead, of the town's WC has changed but rather that they did not recieve a PM at all, cause I have been thinking.... peek to me seemed in his past post during the start of the first day when we had a WC change, almost surprised that the WC had changed and asking did everyone get the PM? like almost as if he did not get one at all.....could be way off, but if only town has the WC changing then it seems fitting that the SCUM do not get a PM for there WC. As I said could be ay off, but your post made me think of this. So if I am right then maybe I should also switch my vote. I still find DBI sucpicious though, but because of thinking that, If it is right then why not. unvote DBI vote peek
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Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 16, 2008 8:36:35 GMT -5
OK, better exceedingly late than never.
Incidentally, the analysis below, I realize, might not come in handy until after toDay. It’s pretty plain that toDay comes down to peeker and DBI, and I’ll weigh in on that, with a vote, presently. But it took me forever to carve out sufficient time to even peek at the bufftabby voting, so I’m by heaven posting it even if y’all don’t read it at all.
So, to start at the end:
bufftabby was lynched with 10 votes, per the final vote count from Idle (last post of Day One):
bufftabby - 10 votes (storyteller, NAF, pedescribe, nanook, Almost Human, Hoopy Frood, Kat, zeriel, Santo Claus, KidV) DBI - 7 votes (Flyingblankofdoom, Chucara, sinjin, Cookies, shaggy, peekercpa, Total Lost)
I voted for her first, at #629. I know my own alignment, so I won’t bother with addressing my own arguments - I’ll leave that to someone else.
Then, in response to my compelling arguments... everyone yawned. No one really even mentioned tabby in a substantive way until NAF added his own vote, at #709, eighty posts later.
Shortly after NAF’s vote, Hoopy Frood addresses the bufftabby case. He says this: “The bufftabby thing is interesting, but I don't feel the case against her overcomes my feelings towards our lurkers at this point.” He also characterizes the case as “[not] all that strong.” He does not vote for buff here.
buff responds to me, and I open up with both barrels at #717. At this point, it’s on. I am fully convinced that buff is Scum, and she of the converse. I now know that we have a case of Town-Town on Town violence (NAF and I, both Town, going after tabby, also Town). The rest of the group didn’t know that, of course. Well, some of them did. Scum have two possible moves here: try to encourage the kerfuffle, or lay back and claim to sense that everyone involved is Town. Moving on.
zeriel casts the dreaded third vote for buff at #724. He adds his own reasoning and generally I see nothing particularly scummy here.
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Now it gets interesting. pedescribe and Nanook have been yowling at one another back and forth a bit. In between taking shots at bufftabby, I express frustration that pedescribe is “perfectly fine with an mmouse lynch” in light of evidence that she’d have been subbed if she didn’t participate. In the course of the discussion, he addresses one of my points about bufftabby thusly:
The above is the first ping on my Scum-O-Meter. It’s exactly the sort of equivocating, “well, I see what you mean, but on the other hand, if/then, I’m suspicious of her, too, but not THAT suspicious, and your original point was weak, so basically, however the wind blows, I won’t be prominent” post that Scum will use to set themselves up in an emerging debacle (heh). With the above post, pedescribe gives himself a reason to vote for bufftabby, but also sets up some distance between himself and that vote.
Which he casts, about five minutes later (#726), for bufftabby, now citing her as the player he is second-most-suspicious about.
At #729, Nanook addresses pedescribe for a bit, says “I’m more convinced then ever that you [pedescribe] are scum,” and then Nanook... uh... votes for bufftabby. He sees the case against buff as “interesting,” but does not elaborate. This looks weird to me here, and indeed KidV points it out himself at #732.
In between we have Mr. Special Ed, at #731, also voting tabby, with the following argument: “I'm not convinced that Tabbygate has found an actual scum, but I'm much more comfortable voting for someone who is acting slightly scummy,” which is an effort to distance himself from his own vote. He adds on the following: “I wish I was more familiar with people on here. Story is playing a different game than the one he did play on FB, but I'm left assuming it's his normal style to point out what he sees as inconsistencies and start a discussion based on them. His skills of persuasion scare me, however.” Obviously, this draws my attention because it mentions me (heh). I point it out because ultimately it’s a bit of a subtle smudge. He’s going to vote for tabby and contribute to her lynch, but he wants to make sure it’s on record that I (and my “skills of persuasion”) are responsible.
Almost Human votes tabby at #735, and while she doesn’t add anything new to previous arguments, she owns her vote, and references previous argument. I don’t see anything to mention here.
Bit more back-and-forth, and we arrive at #750, where the vote count is:
bufftabby - 7 votes (storyteller, NAF, zeriel, pedescribe, nanook, Mr Special Ed, Almost Human) DBI - 4 votes (Flyingblankofdoom, Chucara, sinjin, Cookies) mmouse - 3 votes (KidV, misterblockey, Hoopy Frood) Chucara - 2 votes (Santo Rugger, miteymouse) Total Lost - 1 vote (Peekercpa) Peekercpa - 1 vote (DBI) storyteller - 1 vote (bufftabby)
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Observations to this point:
1. I think it’s moderately likely that at least one of the voters on bufftabby by this point is Scum. Between #723 and #735, a space of only 12 posts, buff picked up an astonishing five votes, taking her from Town-Town on Town violence to “in danger of being lynched.” It is possible that five Townies, independently, all caught up with and agreed with the arguments against buff at the same time, threw caution to the wind, and piled on. But it seems somewhat more likely that in there is at least one Scum who thought an early seat on the wagon might be advisable, and didn’t realize how fast it was developing.
2. I’m not scum, and NAF was not. That leaves zeriel, pedescribe, nanook, Mr. Special Ed, and Almost Human. Of this group, I am less suspicious at the moment of zeriel and Almost Human. pedescribe and Mr. Special Ed get raised eyebrows for their equivocating votes (and the latter for his subtle smudge of me), while Nanook gets one for a strange vote at a strange time.
3. This whole thing looks very different if DBI is Scum versus if she is Town.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 16, 2008 9:12:05 GMT -5
Hoopy makes eight on tabby at #751, with a pretty well-reasoned post.
sinjin expresses discomfort with the tabby train at #753, and well she might; it was really flying at this point.
Mister Special Ed, who remember is still voting on the train that I started, has this to say, in response to my characterization of him as an “easy lynch:”
The foregoing is interesting for two reasons. One is that Ed is continuing the pattern he began in an early post - lightly smudging me with this “setting up of future moves” business.
The second, and most important, is that I never voted for Mr. Special Ed at all.[/u]
Why does this matter? Well, a big chunk of my point to bufftabby was that the interaction between Ed and I was not as contentious as it had been made to sound. My point was that I hadn’t voted for him, hadn’t even really done more than pose a question, and how could that be fairly characterized as a big deal? Ed agreed with me at #670. Here’s my question: if Ed believed at the time that I had voted for him, why would he agree that the interaction was no big deal? And why would he vote along with me on a wagon partially predicated on the notion that the interaction was no big deal?
But now, suddenly, at #765, Mr. Special Ed says he “felt like a target,” and like I am looking for a victim. I am left to wonder: what made him feel like a target? (Or, specifically, what did I do that made him feel like a target? I didn’t vote for him; I asked him a question. It was no big deal, and he agreed that it was no big deal 100 posts before he decided that, you know what, it was a big deal.
Anyway, he unvotes buff, bringing her back down to 7 votes.
Buff self-votes, bringing her back up to 8. Somewhere along the line, DBI has gotten to 6 votes. Zeriel unvotes following a buff role claim at #788. Prior to this, sinjin makes a long post in which she picks apart my and NAF’s arguments, kind of smudges both of us, but then trails off on an uncertain note (this is post #786).
Kat votes buff at #790, citing bufftabby’s incomplete role claim. Frankly, the incomplete role claim cemented my own suspicion of buff, so I can hardly criticize Kat for feeling the same way.
Buff unvotes herself and votes for me (#799).
Totallost votes for DBI at #800, and says the following:
She is, of course, right about most of these things. It is perhaps paranoia, but this post makes me nervous - nowhere near on the level of other things I’ve seen so far, but just a little. It has the faintest odor of totallost using perfect knowledge to play the calm voice of reason, knowing that if buff goes down and then I go down, she’ll have been the rational one arguing against it. Moving on.
zeriel’s back on with a new vote at #814. He’s been vigilant all along, by the way, and concerned about setting a precedent that we will automatically back off anyone who makes a non-vanilla claim. zeriel’s behavior on the buff wagon places him near the bottom of my suspicion list.
At #818 mmouse, our Jester, claims. Penis ensues. totallost switches over quickly. zeriel suggests caution, another point in his favor. total heads back to DBI. The buff unvotes me and votes mmouse.
With less than two hours left the outcome is terribly in doubt:
bufftabby - 8 votes (storyteller, NAF, pedescribe, nanook, Almost Human, Hoopy Frood, Kat, zeriel) DBI - 7 votes (Flyingblankofdoom, Chucara, sinjin, Cookies, shaggy, peekercpa, Total Lost) mmouse - 3 votes (KidV, misterblockey, bufftabby) Chucara - 2 votes (Santo Rugger, miteymouse) Peekercpa - 1 vote (DBI)
KidV makes some cryptic comments regarding my tactics at #869, and moves his vote from mmouse to DBI. It’s a tie.
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Side point: At 8-8, with bufftabby known Town and DBI uncertain, what happens next will be of great interest once we know DBI’s alignment.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 16, 2008 9:27:26 GMT -5
Home stretch. We’re tied, eight votes to eight.
At #873, Santo smudges totallost and KidVermicious - both for going after DBI, essentially. He votes buff two posts later.
COMMENT: If DBI is Scum, this is an insanely aggressive play for a Scum Rugger - putting a Town player in the lynch lead over a scumbuddy while simultaneously smearing two voters for the Scum. It also wouldn’t be out of character for Rugger. If DBI is Town, then Rugger’s post #873 is not particularly illuminating. In any case, Rugger hates the case against DBI and says so repeatedly. Fair enough.
KidV goes over to bufftabby, basically agreeing with Santo. Kid seems like he’s crossing his fingers and hoping, but with little hope, that he’s wrong and others are right. Not anything scummy that I can see; sounds like a pretty Townie pre-lynch reaction.
And that about does it.
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OK. I’ve tried to lay out the evidence as much as possible, both for reference now but more, for more detailed examination later when the alignments of more of the players are known.
Right now I have strong suspicions of Mister Special Ed, in particular. It looks like he landed without a vote at all, the ultimate in equivocation. The inconsistency in his approach to me that I described above bothers me, as does his repeated attempts to paint me as some sort of master manipulator. Just a combination of factors.
I have somewhat weaker suspicions of pedescribe and Nanook, and very modest pings from totallost, Santo Rugger, and sinjin.
And I have pro-Town leanings, albeit mild ones, on zeriel, KidV, and Almost Human.
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So now I have to decide between peeker and DBI for voting purposes. I’ve kind of exhausted my Mafia time for this morning, but I’ll be back with a contribution on that front ASAP.
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Post by Trepa Mayfield on Dec 16, 2008 10:43:16 GMT -5
Did you find the minus world? The one that's password protected? Your title says "found the minus world". I was just checking.
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Post by Nanook on Dec 16, 2008 11:35:00 GMT -5
At #729, Nanook addresses pedescribe for a bit, says “I’m more convinced then ever that you [pedescribe] are scum,” and then Nanook... uh... votes for bufftabby. He sees the case against buff as “interesting,” but does not elaborate. This looks weird to me here, and indeed KidV points it out himself at #732. Interesting take on it. Conveiniently enough, you seem to have missed my explantion post, complete with Mafia strategy discussion, in response to KidV later on. Much later on, as in the next post. I'm sure you saw it, yet you left that out. Interesting indeed.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 16, 2008 11:53:02 GMT -5
At #729, Nanook addresses pedescribe for a bit, says “I’m more convinced then ever that you [pedescribe] are scum,” and then Nanook... uh... votes for bufftabby. He sees the case against buff as “interesting,” but does not elaborate. This looks weird to me here, and indeed KidV points it out himself at #732. Interesting take on it. Conveiniently enough, you seem to have missed my explantion post, complete with Mafia strategy discussion, in response to KidV later on. Much later on, as in the next post. I'm sure you saw it, yet you left that out. Interesting indeed. Oh, please. Do you get that I wrote my reactions, as I read, in real-time? And yes, in the course of re-reading 20 pages of posts in about an hour, I did overlook your four-line explanation. My remorse is overwhelming. Meanwhile, if you have something of which you'd like to accuse me, have at it. Between peeker and Mister Special Ed and now you, the innuendo is getting a little tiresome.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Dec 16, 2008 11:54:41 GMT -5
I don't do balancing, but it is the one area that might make this possibility might make more sense. Assuming that MiteyMouse is town, if there was some advantage that Idle had given to the scum or PFK that needed to be balanced, would putting the win-condition weather into the Mallow role, could that function enough of a handicap to result in a balance? Maybe I'm parsing that differently than how you mean it, but it sure sounds like you're assuming she's town, to me. That's what we in the biz call a "hypothetical" that I was using to try and make some sense of a seemingly nonsensical situation. But just to be clear, I'm not assuming that MiteyMouse is town. I don't understand the weather/WC situation, and I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt that she doesn't really understand it either. You say that she is well aware of what "Vanilla" means and don't buy her confusion. I'm not so confident. Other than what seem to be relatively reasonable misunderstandings, she'd hasn't really done anything suspicious to me. I find it less likely that she would make the plays that she's made as scum or PFK since she would be aware that you and others who have played with her elsewhere would jump all over any feigned confused newbie mistakes. That's how I'm reading the WIFOM so far. I'm not assuming she's town, but I don't have her pegged as scum or PFK either. I'm simply not going to vote for her based on "vanilla" and some weather/wc thing that no one but Idle seems to understand.
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Post by Nanook on Dec 16, 2008 12:38:36 GMT -5
Oh, please. Do you get that I wrote my reactions, as I read, in real-time? And yes, in the course of re-reading 20 pages of posts in about an hour, I did overlook your four-line explanation. My remorse is overwhelming. Overlook it? It was the NEXT post. You were able to take in KidV's reaction to my post, but not the very next post after that? I find that hard to believe. Nope, nothing specific at this point. Just something that gets filed away in my head for later consideration.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Dec 16, 2008 12:45:10 GMT -5
Overlook it? It was the NEXT post. You were able to take in KidV's reaction to my post, but not the very next post after that? I find that hard to believe. Eh. Believe what you want. You try summarizing twenty pages into three posts and see if you capture every detail.
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Post by Almost Human on Dec 16, 2008 13:30:20 GMT -5
Santo's already posted a short form of this but just for clarity here's the whole thing. This was the first post peek made about the win condition pm: And just to let you know where I am at. NAF pms the new win condition at 341 with the admonishment not to discuss until Day start. He posts the same durn thing to the niller role at 342. And at 343 the day starts. I think we have to deeply discount our Mod analysis since apparently Idle is channeling [/b]peek[/b] from his college days. Explanation: For some odd reason we thought it would great fun to throw a string of Black Cats into our roommates' room just to fuck with them (There may have been alcohol and illegal substances involved but am not totally sure). *snerk* 'Course the fact that we all had to live with the attendant smoke and odor for a couple of hours was secondary to the grins and giggles we got from the action. What was really hilarious was the first night we did this. They were all freaked and adrenaline pumped so we assured them that it would never happen again. So we gave them some of our sleeping powder to help them go back to sleep (meth) and told them to go lay back down and we would clean up. Poor bastards didn't sleep the entire weekend. [/size][/quote] Only the first paragraph's relevant, the rest is just fun stuff. It's pretty clear he's received a pm from this unless he's lying which I doubt. Then much later on the post which seems to have got him in so much trouble: Early game observations.
Ok sinjin you reference where the mouse says that in her Pm that "... you have changed your win condition....". My PMs merely indicate that the win condition has changed. What's up with that (and no, I am not going to track down the original post)?
Either mouse is full of shit or sinjin is making stuff up.
sasquagsanta seems to be having a bad week.
story is unnaturally quiet. BTW folks, this one scares the ever living crud out of me. So solly story just the way it is. Null tell but sheesh.
Nannok really really needs some fiber in his diet. Just cause you are backed up don't take it out on those of us who are playing and having FUN. Cripes, J. Edgar could you just have a BM and move on. Pleo vigged me on the dope because I play "anti - town". The only thing that I can think of more anti - town is letting your personal bias influence your perceptions and votes. ,and that, my friend, is anti town (play the game the way I want it played or you are anti - town). That be bullshit.
Idle said this was non Gastard. So far he looks like he is yanking our collective chain. But I still believe him and want to get to the bottom of the conundrums (another dollar word).
[John Belushi]Who's with me[/John Belushi]? Again, just the first paragraph's relevant but I hate snipping in case there's something else there I've missed that someone else sees. Yes, he got it wrong. Yes, it's possible it's a scum or pfk slip and that his pm did say something like "Mallow has changed the town's win condition" instead. But seriously, we're giving Mighty the benefit of the doubt for much bigger mistakes than this and it doesn't seem (to me) to be that significant. At least I get the impression that his subsequent responses have contained genuine frustration rather than scummy backpedalling.
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