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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 19, 2009 10:58:35 GMT -5
My case against Hoopy: Oh, yes. Because as we saw in Batman, and Marvel, and Apocalypse, and every other game, wording in PM's is such an important tell. [metagame] Maybe we can see if Idle forgot to capitalize "Total Lost" well we're at it. [/metagame] I nailed Ed on it because his town win condition was missing two words that everyone else had. Speaking of, I notice you still cite Ed's bogus PM as evidence even after Cookies made the same mistake and was called on it earlier. Well, it didn't seem to stop Total Lost from voting Zeriel at the time, did it? And Cookies had some confusion over the mechanic. And even you saw the possibility of a "debacle" in post 14. And Nanook (town) saw the wisdom of my claim. And so did Special Ed (Survivor), who himself disagreed with Nanook's claim. Plus, it was Day 5. Are you really going to tell me that Day 5 is a bad Day for a detective to come out? The non-outed investigator in Batman came out Day 6 after all, and that was after the mass claim on Day 3 had outed the Detective/Vig and the Riddler. We had no other investigators outed yet. Day 5 was a completely reasonable time to come out seeing as how there were no investigators out. It is also a reasonable time for the Masons if you've ever followed the discussions in forbidden threads/spoiled forums on when Masons whould come out. If you figure a game should shoot for 8 days, creating a confirmed block after the game is halfway done is a completely reasonable tactic. Oh yes, a scummy investigator was in cahoots with the Serial Killer. See chucara and I planned it all along. Of course, in order for that to be true, I would have had to broken the rules of the game and contacted him illegally. Or are you suggesting I was in a PFK group with chucara. It would make total sense that I would potentially out him after my claim, because well, I guess it could be the Hush/Riddler thing in Batman, but then I probably wouldn't have suggested we tame our SK and try to make a vig out of him. Maybe I figured ped was either scum or a vig was likely to take him out, because if DBI hadn't have slipped, he probably would have been a viable lynch candidate at that point. I went for the player under the radar. I didn't believe you anymore than I believed Ed's fake PM. When did I say I was certain you both were scum? If you noticed, I made a case for why I thought she was town instead of blockey. Because blockey gave us little to judge him by. Cookies gave us a good amount which suggested she's town. It doesn't mean she is, but she's got a lot more townie cred than you do at this point. A smudge is when the accusation is not supported. I said what I found in the PM I received. You can believe me or not, but I was completely open with it. That's not a smudge. You're "we've trusted our power roles and it's shenanigans" thing is what a smudge is. Because clearly you were referring to me but you didn't come out and say it. And then your "Why are you paranoid? I wasn't referring to you." thing was just backpedalling ridiculousness. You call Rugger's play conservative? Did you ever look at Doperville? We scum left the detective alive to the end because town didn't believe him. It worked out well since we became the first and currently only scum team to have everyone alive at the game end. Actually, I don't know I'll be alive toMorrow. But I won't be surprised if I am. With attacks to discredit me, the seed of doubt has been planted. Scum can decide which tactic they want to take. It was a major discussion of ours in Doperville as to whether we wanted to kill Ryjae off, and therefore confirm his investigations, or let Town stew in their WIFOM mistrust of him. A case? I threw it out as a possibility. And I didn't say she was an "evil mason". That implies she's a traitor to them. (Hi Roosh!) I'm saying we may have to prevent a mason win entirely. But I will happily go first before the masons, since once the unconfirmed are done, I'm vanilla anyway.
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Post by Total Ullz on Jan 19, 2009 11:45:28 GMT -5
[metagame] Maybe we can see if Idle forgot to capitalize "Total Lost" well we're at it. [/metagame] I guess I deserve that one!!
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Post by sinjin on Jan 19, 2009 12:28:55 GMT -5
The comparison of this game to the ones you mention is a false analogy. You yourself outed Ed based on his role pm. Yet you once again conveniently failed to mention how Cookies outed Zeriel in this game based on his role pm too. So in this game two players have been outed by their role pms. But we should all ignore that based on what happened in other games.....right.
*Ed's pm was included because I just copied Cookies post and forgot to take his pm out.
This is just silly. You know very well I'm suggesting that scum killed pede not chucara. Do you really believe chucara wasn't lying out his ass on his last day? You think he really had to kill every night and had successfully killed every night? I can find the quote if you want. So what were scum doing while he was killing everyone? Playing strip poker? Maybe you figured? You don't remember why you suddenly changed your investigation strategy to look at the player who was under the radar?
Another false analogy. Every one in this game is hanging on your every word. I fear it's going to lose us the game.
If Cookies and I aren't scum buddies where's the other scum? Are you suggesting there were only three scum in this game? Oh no, that's right, you're setting up KidV for that role.
I reiterate, the only case you have against me is you don't like my role claim and you didn't investigate me.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 19, 2009 13:01:20 GMT -5
The comparison of this game to the ones you mention is a false analogy. You yourself outed Ed based on his role pm. Yet you once again conveniently failed to mention how Cookies outed Zeriel in this game based on his role pm too. So in this game two players have been outed by their role pms. But we should all ignore that based on what happened in other games.....right. Cookies outed Zeriel based on the similarities between hers and his. I outed Ed based on differences, the same tack you're taking with mine. There's a difference there. They were killing FCOD. We had two deaths that night, remember? The townie claimed power role died and the WIFOM from the scum godfather died. You even asked how a politician role would work. So back then you were aware he died. Why did you seem to conveniently leave it out this time? You're really pulling out the desparation arguments now, aren't you? No I was making a reference to the fact that I had already addressed this point before you made your joke of a case against me. If you really were trying to do a serious analysis of me rather than throwing shit everywhere to see what sticks, you would have taken issue with the reasons, not with the action itself when I already justified it. No, not really. Why did you ask why I was still alive. There was a tamed SK and a Doctor ahead of me after I claimed. And then there were no scum to take me out last night. But I can see your attack as being a setup so that scum can leave me alive toMorrow for the WIFOM. Because that's exactly what we did after peekercpa counter-claimed the real town detective. So there is no false analogy here. If Cookies and I aren't scum buddies where's the other scum? Are you suggesting there were only three scum in this game? Oh no, that's right, you're setting up KidV for that role.[/quote] I'm no suggesting anything at this point, other than I'm pretty sure you're scum. No, your continuing smudging of me, your ridiculous arguments (He claimed at an entirely resonable point in the game and not under pressure, clearly he's scum!), your implication that the fact I thought it'd be a good idea for blockey to be taken out last night is any sort of tell when you yourself has been on his case over the previous two Days,
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jan 19, 2009 13:39:00 GMT -5
The weird part about this game at this point is, any townies being pressured should pretty much just sacrifice themselves. We have the numbers for it. At the same time, lingering in the back of my mind, is the fear that this has been so "easy" a game for us to win because we're not actually winning, and each time we shave off a townie in this attempt to hunt scum in the unconfirmed, we're playing right into the hands of someone who is hiding in the confirmed.
If I were under pressure right now, I'd basically just die without a fuss for the town, but I think there is a fine line crossed at taking a bullet for sinjin to prove that I'm town. I know nobody has asked me to do that, but the numbers do seem to indicate that it would work.
But then I'm right back at the fear that the scum are peeling off townies, and by sacrificing myself even though it seems like a smart move, would actually be doing what they want.
Am I making any sense?
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Post by sinjin on Jan 19, 2009 13:46:39 GMT -5
Hey Hoopy, I'm not smudging you, I'm accusing you.
Way to misinterpret what I said. I remember that FCOD died that night. What I'm saying is you and your scum buddies took out pede and chucara took out FCOD and then lied about it like he was lying about everthing that day. Recall the post by chucara where he said this:
At that point the night kills were as follows: Night 1: MHaye Mario, potential one shot Doc, Vig, and Cop Night 2: NAF Hammer Brother 1, Mason, Nanook claims self-protect Night 3: Storyteller Princess Peach Night 4: FCoD, Politician, Town, & Pedescribe, Kemek, role blocker
My contention is that he was lying out his ass about who he killed.
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Post by sinjin on Jan 19, 2009 13:54:37 GMT -5
So it's valid when you out Ed based on differences between pm's but invalid when I question your pm based on its difference from all but Mighty's?
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Post by Total Ullz on Jan 19, 2009 13:58:40 GMT -5
The weird part about this game at this point is, any townies being pressured should pretty much just sacrifice themselves. We have the numbers for it. At the same time, lingering in the back of my mind, is the fear that this has been so "easy" a game for us to win because we're not actually winning, and each time we shave off a townie in this attempt to hunt scum in the unconfirmed, we're playing right into the hands of someone who is hiding in the confirmed. If I were under pressure right now, I'd basically just die without a fuss for the town, but I think there is a fine line crossed at taking a bullet for sinjin to prove that I'm town. I know nobody has asked me to do that, but the numbers do seem to indicate that it would work. But then I'm right back at the fear that the scum are peeling off townies, and by sacrificing myself even though it seems like a smart move, would actually be doing what they want. Am I making any sense? It makes sense to me. I have been following this Hoopy/Sinjin-debacle all Day and I can't figure out what's going on. I did think we would win yesterDay with MiteyM and me being "scum" but it didn't turn out like I had hoped at all. The one thing is... Sinjin has been on me since Day 1 and after Hoopy said I was town she hasn't. Might be because of the DBI-thing or because she knows I'm town. As for MiteyM and me we're not really as confirmed as I had hoped because MisterB was indeed town
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Post by sinjin on Jan 19, 2009 14:05:45 GMT -5
Cookies I went along with the let's just lynch the unconfirmed when I was convinced that you and Blockey were scum. When Blockey turned up town I knew something was wrong with that belief. There appeared to me to be only two explanations:
1) Cookies and KidV are scum buddies. 2) Hoopy is lying, mole of a scum detective who has been leading us down the garden path and his scum buddy is hidden amongst the "confirmed."
Hoopy's immediate attack on me again today and his remarks about the masons have convinced me he is scum.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 19, 2009 14:18:01 GMT -5
So it's valid when you out Ed based on differences between pm's but invalid when I question your pm based on its difference from all but Mighty's? I nailed Ed on specific wording in win condition. You're critiquing mine on flavor. Yes, there is a difference. Especially since you say everyone is the same but me and Mitey. News flash: Everyone but me, you, and Mitey whose PM's you have posted have been vanilla or non-town. So, I claim a power role. My PM has different flavor. Mitey has a power-role (even if the power is rather usless) and her PM has different flavor. Yeah, solid argument there. You may have missed that in all your cherry picking and skimming.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 19, 2009 14:26:36 GMT -5
[quote author=sinjin board=isthisanotherclue thread=714 post=38829 time=1232391945Hoopy's immediate attack on me again today and his remarks about the masons have convinced me he is scum.[/quote]
Yeah, because clearly you never had any issues with KidV yourself.
Oh, wait, you did.
Day 5, responses 120, 124, and 149. 149 you even say you would vote for him had he not claimed mason. Sure you ended it with a tongue smiley, but it's not as if you didn't have your issues with him as a poster. I just posited a mechanic. But somehow, me throwing out a possible mechanic is scummy, whereas you attacking him is not.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jan 19, 2009 15:25:15 GMT -5
I'm back. KidV sure is getting the easy ride, is all I've gotta say. Yeah. I hadn't full-claimed yet because it would have been more hurtful than helpful. What with the castle shenanigans, though, this needs cleared up. The full scoop from me now will help clarify a couple different things, so here ya go. <font style="font-size: 12px;"> 1) Cookies and KidV are scum buddies. 2) Hoopy is lying, mole of a scum detective who has been leading us down the garden path and his scum buddy is hidden amongst the "confirmed." Hoopy's immediate attack on me again today and his remarks about the masons have convinced me he is scum. Option one is incorrect. I have no special knowledge about Kats alignment, but she isn't a mason, and I'm not scum. Masons were PFK (and yeah, Hoopy, our discussion of 3rd party masons was the first thing I thought of when I got my PM ). Please to note that nowhere in the death reveals for Rysto or NAF does it say town... just Mason. We started the game with a "win by yourselves, or with scum" objective. Since then, it flopped several times, finally settling down as "win with Town" at the same time the Town objective stopped changing... making me essentially Town. For whatever its worth, I was a 3rd party survivor in the castle. So - one or two scum left would be my guess, depending on whether Idle intended our win condition to end up same as town (making the changing wincon a shiny red herring), or if that was random. The second option might mean we were intended to balance a smaller scum group... but I suspect that the changing wincon was intended to stabilize at the normal situation we have now, which means we should count for Town in the JSP calculation. I think it's time to lynch Hoopy. If he's telling the truth, we don't need him at this stage, it's all over but the shouting. His death will lock down a good sized confirmed list, and we can basically autolynch. If he's NOT telling the truth, we absolutely need to know that right freaking now. I need to re-read in much greater depth, but I think a Hoopy lynch will be where I end up.
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Post by sinjin on Jan 19, 2009 15:42:35 GMT -5
Yeah, because clearly you never had any issues with KidV yourself. Oh, wait, you did. Day 5, responses 120, 124, and 149. 149 you even say you would vote for him had he not claimed mason. Sure you ended it with a tongue smiley, but it's not as if you didn't have your issues with him as a poster. I just posited a mechanic. But somehow, me throwing out a possible mechanic is scummy, whereas you attacking him is not. I can't believe that Hoopy is getting this desperate. Note he didn't add a copy of the posts that he is attacking me with. Probably because they are so innocuous and he's hoping you don't go look them up. Here they are: 120: And while I'm at it KidV: You're right about Sinjin, it does look bad for her. WTH? I find someone scummy on Day one and can't find someone else more scummy on subsequent days? Did you guys even read any of my posts or are you basing all of this on just votes with no analysis? 124: Oh, for fucks sake. No. No I have NOT read your posts (re-read, that is), or yours, Ed, or yours, Blockey, and I frickin SAID THAT. I also said I'm not basing anything at all on any of the lists I've posted so far, and I don't expect anybody else to, either... they're just pieces of information that may or may not be useful when looked at in aggregate with other pieces of information. I did toss in that line at the end about my cooking, just to see if anybody wanted to comment on what I'd posted so far. The reactions have been... interesting. Italics mine. But then you said: You're right about Sinjin, it does look bad for her. Which seems like a total forehand smudge to me. I am not liking this at all. And yes I misused the word smudge there, sue me. But the really stupid one is 149 where OH NOES I threaten to vote for KidV.: Also, as long as I'm using my Mason status as cover to float stupid ideas, is there any value in faux-voting up to three other players? Maybe even Borda? We might get a more accurate consensus, if it's worth the trouble. Can we please not make this days voting even more complicated than it is? If you had not claimed mason exactly when you did I would be voting for you right now. It was a joke for Og's sake. KidV was suggesting we make the voting on Day five, when we had the screwy unvote thing going on, even more complicated. KidV got the joke and responded light-heartedly in post 151. I can't believe Hoopy is describing the minutia of what I said to KidV on Day 5 as attacking him. Talk about throwing shit against the wall and hoping some will stick.
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jan 19, 2009 15:45:06 GMT -5
I see no reason not to have a potential lynch pool that includes myself, KidV, sinjin, and maybe even Hoopy based on this new information. To admit to an initial pfk and/or scum win condition and not be considered as a candidate doesn't make much sense to me. It requires us to believe information that we can't confirm: how the Masons came out of the game of WC roulette.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 19, 2009 16:16:31 GMT -5
I think it's time to lynch Hoopy. If he's telling the truth, we don't need him at this stage, it's all over but the shouting. His death will lock down a good sized confirmed list, and we can basically autolynch. If he's NOT telling the truth, we absolutely need to know that right freaking now. I need to re-read in much greater depth, but I think a Hoopy lynch will be where I end up. And if that's why you want to lynch me, so be it. Note that I will not vote for myself, because I know I'm town. I also don't want to risk scum having an extra kill. But if town decides that lynching me for confirmation is worth a mislynch, I won't say it's a bad choice. Especially given that the masons were a full on PFK group, that adds a huge balancing effect to the numbers as we've seen them. But I'm not going to let scum sit around and smudge me. If I turn up town, it's pretty obvious who goes next. Her behavior has been extremely telling. She's failed to make a case based on anything but conjecture. And every time I've removed another bit of her house of cards, she's ignored my counterpoints and instead brought up more things to fling. My uncountered claim was scummy. My PM was scummy. My not confirming her was scummy. My attacking of blocky was scummy, but hers wasn't. My saying the Masons had their own win condition was scummy. The fact that two people died on Day 5 makes me scummy. (Bang-up logic with that one, there, Sinj. Throw out unsupported accusations and then use those to beg the question of me being scum.) The fact that I'm still alive makes me scummy. You guys want to lynch me for info, fine. But don't lynch me because Sinjin thinks I'm scum. Her case sucks. It has more holes than a block of Swiss cheese and has a less stable foundation than a house of cards.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 19, 2009 16:35:31 GMT -5
It requires us to believe information that we can't confirm: how the Masons came out of the game of WC roulette. Well, based on the PM I got, their win condition yesterDay matched Towns (aside from the solo-win thing). We haven't cycled for a while, so it's reasonable that they haven't either.
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Post by sinjin on Jan 19, 2009 16:48:41 GMT -5
Hoopy, your lies about what I'm accusing you of are getting blatant: My uncountered claim was scummy. Nope, never said it. I said your claim timing was questionable. Yes, I did say this one and still believe it. Yep I did say this and still believe it. Nope never said it, cite? I saw this as you setting up KidV, who wasn't around, to take the fall when I turn up town. This has been clarified by KidV. Nope never said it. I said I thought you and your scum buddies offed pede, several times. You just keep ignoring it. Yes, still believe it. And I repeat AGAIN, the only basis you have for finding me scummy is 1) You think my role is anti-town, hands down, no exceptions, every time. 2) You didn't investigate me. And your post about me threatening to vote for KidV on Day 5 smells of desperation.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jan 19, 2009 17:54:22 GMT -5
Wait - Sinjin, I clarified what, now?
Hoopy, I'll admit that to having been nervous against you since you first claimed. The timing on that struck me as odd, and I know you've explained why, but I can't get over that it feels weird. I'd be much more comfortable with you if you'd found a scum for us, but that hasn't happened, and I know that you're trying to target townies anyway... it's water under the bridge at this point.
I'm all about hunting scum - if there was a solid enough lead on somebody, independant of your reveals, I agree that would be the place to go, but I don't see one. Right now, I think we've got two scum left. Discounting me, because I can, that leaves Cookies and Sinjin (right? I think so), and I'm not sure they're both scum. That raises natural questions about the rest of the information we're building our confirmed list with, and since I know my info is legit, I hafta raise an eyebrow at yours.
Assuming two scum left, we've got mislynches to burn, and I just think it might be time for Town to be dang sure of the info you've given us. Scum haven't killed you, and you haven't given us scum, and we're at the point in this game that if you ARE misleading us, we need to know now if we're to have time to recover. From where I sit, lynching you is just good play.
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Post by KidVermicious on Jan 19, 2009 18:13:24 GMT -5
KidV - claimed third party mason what wins with Town, not investigated.
Total Lost - claimed vanilla Town, investigated by Hoopy. MiteyMouse - claimed vanilla Town, investigated by Hoopy. Kat - claimed vanilla Town, investigated by Hoopy. Hoopy Frood - claimed Town investigator. Almost Human - claimed vanilla Town, investigated by Hoopy.
Cookies - vanilla Town, not investigated. sinjin - lynchproof Town, not investigated.
Assuming 2 scum, we've got 3 mislynches. I think.
So I'll retract my assertion that we need to lynch Hoopy now. I'll propose that we lynch one of Cookies and Sinjin (duh), with Hoopy to investigate the other. If we hit scum, good to go. If we hit Town, we'll still have 2 mislynches to play with, and Hoopy can't help but find scum in the other player, or die.
If Town Hoopy lives through the night, it'll be because scum want Town to play WIFOM games about him... but if that happens, then he'll have to return a scum result on whichever of Cookies and Sinjin we don't lynch, which will add considerably to his cred, in my eyes.
If Town Hoopy gets NK'd tonight, that locks down his confirmed list for us.
If Hoopy is scum, and we lynch Town today, and he buses Town tomorrow, we'll still have one mislynch and awesome vote record to assist in the hunt for his buddy. If he gives us a Town result tomorrow, I think we lynch him then, because it'll mean he's lying, or his results are unreliable.
Did I miss anything?
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Post by sinjin on Jan 19, 2009 18:18:38 GMT -5
Wait - Sinjin, I clarified what, now? That mason's had/have a separate win condition. Given my suspicions of Hoopy I thought he was just pulling that out of his ass so he would have someone to go after toMorrow when I turn up town. And I know I must seem like a crazy person toDay but I did the following analysis and it made me very nervous. I meant to post this in response totallost earlier today and lost it in my replies to Hoopy. Feel free to let me know if my numbers are wrong: totallost I have not been on your case because I too believed Hoopy, right up till Blockey turned up town. Right now I am back to square one and in super paranoid mode. Worst case scenario based on two scum left, if we have three scum left we are officially at DefCon1: 2 scum and 5 town left. Day Eight: lynch sinjin, town (4 town left) Night Eight: Scum take out another town (3) Day Nine: Hoopy convinces you all to take out another town(2) Game Over. Best case scenario. Day eight: lynch sinjin, town (4) Night eight: scum take out town (3) Day nine: lynch Hoopy, scum (1) Night nine: scum take out town (2) Day 10: town is at lylo
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 19, 2009 19:19:16 GMT -5
If he gives us a Town result tomorrow, I think we lynch him then, because it'll mean he's lying, or his results are unreliable. If I get town results tomorrow and I'm still alive I'll be the first to vote for myself. As I said, lynching me for info toDay isn't a bad choice. Leaving me alive for the final investigation would probably be better, but we don't need it. But if you do lynch me, Sinjin needs to die toMorrow. Then Cookies. And if the game still isn't over, you.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 19, 2009 19:22:06 GMT -5
And I know I must seem like a crazy person toDay Just think how you'll look when I come up town.
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Post by sinjin on Jan 19, 2009 19:31:27 GMT -5
And I know I must seem like a crazy person toDay Just think how you'll look when I come up town. Right back at ya hon. Bygones.
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Post by Gir! on Jan 19, 2009 21:01:42 GMT -5
And who do we want to focus on if both sinjin and Hoopy come up Town?
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Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Jan 19, 2009 21:56:04 GMT -5
I would say that myself and KidV would be the next decision in that scenario.
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Post by Høøpy Frøød on Jan 19, 2009 22:03:38 GMT -5
And who do we want to focus on if both sinjin and Hoopy come up Town? Cookies and KidV. If Sinjin gets lynched, I investigate Cookies. If she turns up town or I don't get a read, lynch me. Because at that point, I want to know what I am, 'cause clearly there's something screwy with my role or this game. If I get lynched, Sinjin, Cookies, and KidV in that order. At that point, I don't know. Based on the PM I got yesterDay for the mason role combined with KidV's confirmation of it and his claim that the Masons originally weren't allied with town, I highly doubt I would have gotten a townie reading from you if you were a hidden mason. (When I originally threw it out, I didn't realize that the masons weren't town. The PM I received said they won with town or themselves.) If we end up exhausting all unconfirmed, and Idle hasn't gastardized my role in some way (*cue chorus of "It's not a gastard game" from the peanut gallery*), well, the end game among the confirmed will be pretty damn interesting, and I'll be glad I won't be around for it.
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Post by Idle Thoughts on Jan 20, 2009 5:23:49 GMT -5
Sinjin - 3 votes (Hoopy, Almost Human, Miteymouse) Hoopy - 1 vote (sinjin)
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Post by sinjin on Jan 20, 2009 5:41:32 GMT -5
If Town Hoopy lives through the night, it'll be because scum want Town to play WIFOM games about him... but if that happens, then he'll have to return a scum result on whichever of Cookies and Sinjin we don't lynch, which will add considerably to his cred, in my eyes. If Town Hoopy gets NK'd tonight, that locks down his confirmed list for us. If Hoopy is scum, and we lynch Town today, and he buses Town tomorrow, we'll still have one mislynch and awesome vote record to assist in the hunt for his buddy. If he gives us a Town result tomorrow, I think we lynch him then, because it'll mean he's lying, or his results are unreliable. Did I miss anything? Yes you missed a couple of things. You're assuming that Hoopy is town. And you've perfectly set Scum Hoopy up for a win with my worst case scenario above.
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Post by sinjin on Jan 20, 2009 6:07:19 GMT -5
I feel like Sisyphus here. All the "confirmed" town are sitting on the bench in the nice warm fluffy robes of towniness that Hoopy has wrapped you in while Cookies and I are treading water as fast as we can in the deep end of the icey cold pool labeled "unconfirmed." Hoopy has been very, very smooth in this game. He singled each and everyone of you town "confirmed" out to save you from a mislynch because he saw your towniness shining thru. He snuggled you all just like he's been snuggling Cookies for the last two days. Some even thanked him for confirming you. I know you don't want to take off your robes and plunge back into the cold water but the game is ours to lose at this point.
When we lynch Hoopy and he comes back scum everyone will be unconfirmed again and we'll all have to start actually playing the game!
The lynch order matters. I know I've been posting a lot, but please, please look at my best and worse case scenario's above.
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Post by Almost Human on Jan 20, 2009 7:55:45 GMT -5
I feel like Sisyphus here. All the "confirmed" town are sitting on the bench in the nice warm fluffy robes of towniness that Hoopy has wrapped you in while Cookies and I are treading water as fast as we can in the deep end of the icey cold pool labeled "unconfirmed." Hoopy has been very, very smooth in this game. He singled each and everyone of you town "confirmed" out to save you from a mislynch because he saw your towniness shining thru. He snuggled you all just like he's been snuggling Cookies for the last two days. Some even thanked him for confirming you. I know you don't want to take off your robes and plunge back into the cold water but the game is ours to lose at this point. When we lynch Hoopy and he comes back scum everyone will be unconfirmed again and we'll all have to start actually playing the game! The lynch order matters. I know I've been posting a lot, but please, please look at my best and worse case scenario's above. Sinjin, if you turn out to be town I can well understand your frustration and will gladly tie your boulder to Mr Frood. I do think we need to lynch you first though. I think we can lynch you safely toDay then if you do turn up town we should absolutely take out hoopy next.
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