Merestil Haye
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:08:14 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 17, 2010 19:08:14 GMT -5
This Dawn post brought to you in the colour green, by executive decision of Yattara.
It's been a quiet Night you all think, cowering in your rooms and hoping to avoid the attention of whoever it is that is murdering people in their sleep. Unless, of course, you're one of those actually doing the murdering, in which case you're out and about finding someone to murder in their sleep. Or trying to stop the murderers. Whatever.
It's about an hour before first light when you hear the crashing around. It goes on for quite a long time before falling still. Some time later, there is a roaring sound, like some mechanical banshee, that lasts for a couple of minutes then goes quiet.
You emerge with a certain amount of trepidation, wondering what you will find. In the main lounge there is a scene of mayhem – broken furniture, upended tables and so on. In the middle of the room is the body of Marcel Marceau. Even inexperienced crime-scene investigators like yourselves quickly realise that Marcel was not attacked here, but had staggered in from the place where he was attacked (his room, for those who are interested); the blood and wreckage show you that.
A quick headcount shows that there are still two people missing; Jack Skellington and the one known only as The Corinthian. So you split into two parties to go check their rooms. The party sent to Jack's room find an empty room. Not so with the other group. Whoever wanted The Corinthian dead wanted to make sure he didn't come back. His body, sans head, lay on the ground amid a sea of blood, bearing wounds that spoke loudly to all, and what they said was “chainsaw.” His head was found stuffed into the trash compactor that did for poor Eleanor, but missing the eyes. (They have not been traced at the time of writing.)
On returning to the main room, they see a familiar sight – the glass cage, now holding a resigned looking Jack Skellington. Jack has been jailed and is unable to speak, vote, or be voted for.
Slinking in from the side entrance is Rorschach, who's shabby raincoat looks – well, just the same really. Rorschach may speak and act normally.
Marcel Marceau, Town-aligned one-shot Mass Roleblocker, has gone to meet his maker. The Corinthian, Townie Masonic-type person with some investigative power has gone to wherever creepy superheroes and supervillains go.
The Quick: 1 BillMC: Batman 4 Inner Stickler: Jack Skellington 5 Sister Coyote: Death of Rats 8 Timmyfellinthewell: Rorschach 9 Cometothedarksidewehavecookies: Nakor 10 Storyteller: generic homicidal maniac 11 Peekercpa: Curious George 12 Severe Delays: Elizabeth Bathory 15 Special Ed: Dr. Rajesh Ramayan Koothrappali 17 Septimus: Dr. Strangelove 18 Hockey Monkey: Dexter Morgan 19 Natlaw: Nordom the Modron 21 NPhase: Iskaral Pust 22 Mahaloth: Zeddicus "Zedd" Zu'l Zorander 23 Paulwhoisaghost: Meeko
The Dead: 14 Captain Pinkies: Twilight Fangirl, Town Hider 24 Captain Pinkies: The Narrator, PFK Power Stealer 20 Drain Bead: Buddy Christ, Scum Corrupter 13 Suburban Plankton: Stay Puft Marshmallow man: Town Vigilante 16 Dirx: Lt. Columbo: Town Roleblocker 3 Kat: Gir PFK Serial Killer 6 Sinjin: (Eleanor) Big Sister Town Doctor 7 Total Lost: Galadriel, Scum Limited Investigator 2 redskeezix: The Corinthian, Town Mason 25 Meeko: Marcel Marceau, Town One-Shot Mass Roleblocker
Day 6 starts now. It will end at approximately 8PM EDT on Friday 22nd October.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:13:25 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Oct 17, 2010 19:13:25 GMT -5
Welcome back Rorschach.
Only one dead on N4, so probably no other PFK killer, but two dead N5.
I can see Scum motivation for killing the Corinthian, but not for killing Marcel - why waste a kill on someone who is essentially vanilla.
Raj, please don't tell me you did a grudge kill of Marcel??
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:17:49 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Oct 17, 2010 19:17:49 GMT -5
Death of Rats
SQUEEK - and it's not bats in the belfry.
I investigated Death of Rats and she's a PFK Governor who can stop one lynch.
Why? I hear you ask. You didn't? So I'll tell you anyway....
SisC did not vote for Gir, nor did she vote for The Narrator. Indeed, her most content rich post was her defending her vote on Elizabeth being Scum (and I'll give her her due, it was a good case).
Apart from SisC not voting The Narrator & Gir, and her comments about PFK wincon's; when I said I didn't believe Story's claim she appears to have come out strongly in his defense. She responds more times to my accusations against Story than he does. She seems to accept or want others to accept Story's claim.
But what caught my eye on re-read is this: "Really? I think maybe you've got bats in your belfry -- either that, or there's something in your role PM that has you obsessed with PFKs, sheesh"
PFK's by definition, are threats to town - town needs them dead. Why shouldn't town be obsessed with them, especially when there seems to be a lot of them.
She avoided voting two known PFK's, and apparently defends a third who I think is PFK (Story). She appears to know more about the PFK's than she is letting on.
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So no point lynching her as she will stop her own lynch - so Raj should try to kill her toNight.
And based on her defense of Story/Maniac, I think that he is also PFK. And given he so eloquently described the N2 all killer redirect, it's quite possible he was the one responsible for it.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:19:00 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Oct 17, 2010 19:19:00 GMT -5
Dexter
N2: Killers were redirected to the Batcave, no one else was. So the redirector power was against killers only. Dexter jails Eleanor N3: The only claimed redirection was Zedd to Skellington. No kills were apparently redirected; my investigation failed due to Galadriel being jailed by Dexter, so no way of knowing whether it was a redirect targeted at Zedd, or a mass redirect of investigations to Skellington. N4: The only claimed redirect was from Dexter, targeting Storyteller but getting redirected to me. N5: Skellington is jailed - someone known to be no threat to town. Let me guess - you are going to claim redirected again.
I can't see it being a mass redirect of Jailers.
Why would a redirector specifically target Dexter? and redirect Dexter to me? With only one kill on N4, it appears Gir was the only PFK killer; so a redirect of Dexter to me wouldn't kill me; and Dexter gave no sign of being an offensive role, or indeed Jailer. So why would Scum was the redirect? They would have been better using it on Raj in the off chance that he did decide to kill.
So on that basis, I think Dexter's claim of Town Jailer is bat guano and that Dexter is the Scum Jailer
Vote: Dexter
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:23:49 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Oct 17, 2010 19:23:49 GMT -5
So where does that leave us.... Alive Town- 1 BillMC: Batman (cop)
- 2 redskeezix: The Corinthian (mason)
- 4 Inner Stickler: Jack Skellington (?) "not a threat"
- 8 Timmyfellinthewell: Rorschach (?) seems townie; "arrested" unlikely scum
- 11 Peekercpa: Curious George (mason)
- 15 Special Ed: Dr. Rajesh Ramayan Koothrappali (vig)
- 17 Septimus: Dr. Strangelove (mason)
- 22 Mahaloth: Zeddicus "Zedd" Zu'l Zorander (cop)
Scum- 18 Hockey Monkey: Dexter Morgan - Scum Jailer. I can't see any pro-town motives for the jailing choices.
PFK- 5 Sister Coyote: Death of Rats - PFK Governor
- 10 Storyteller: generic homicidal maniac - PFK - I don't believe his claim; SisC being PFK incriminates him - she seems to know who the PFK's are.
The unknown/undecided:- 9 Cometothedarksidewehavecookies: Nakor T - has kept a relatively low profile, neutral play, but did defend Dexter
- 12 severedelays: Elizabeth Bathory - Day 4 play reeked of scumminess - but zed said not a threat. Decided to vote galadriel when Dexter was clearly the vote leader, trying to save Dexter? Possibly Godfather?
- 19 Natlaw: Nordom the Modron - I'm leaning towards town, but Day 5 play has raised doubts
- 21 NPhase: Iskaral Pust - somewhat flip flopping - undecided.
- 23 Paulwhoisaghost: Meeko - Day 4 play around self confirming role is somewhat suspicious, Defended Dexter, suggested Zedd is a godfather
With 25 players, we'd expect 5 scum; 2 are dead (buddy, galadriel). Cookies, Elizabeth and Paul were effectively defending Dexter. Dexter raises the idea of Zedd being a scum godfather. Cookies, Elizabeth, Paul and Dexter cannot all be scum - that would give us 6 scum (Buddy, Galadriel) - very unlikely given the multiple PFK's we appear to have. Tho with only one kill N4 it would suggest that Gir was the only pfk killer. Assuming Dexter is scum, then 2 of the 5 unknown are scum. If Elizabeth is a godfather, then one of cookies, natlaw, nphase or paul needs to be scum. Gir indicated that there were at least two more PFK's. So possibly more than two. If we believe her, then in addition to SisC/Story, at least one of the unknown would also be PFK - but not Elizabeth (either town, or scum godfather) So 3 of the 5 are probably non-town. So 3 plus Dexter, SisC, Story. So probs 3 scum and 3 pfk still alive.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:24:12 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Oct 17, 2010 19:24:12 GMT -5
Yes, I had a lot of time to think in the bat cell :-)
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:34:03 GMT -5
Post by special on Oct 17, 2010 19:34:03 GMT -5
Raj, please don't tell me you did a grudge kill of Marcel?? It was me. This was my thinking:
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:34:38 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Oct 17, 2010 19:34:38 GMT -5
the remaining masons (god rest your soul skeez can confirm that bat did in fact visit ratty last Night. no one else at the bat cave, however. it really is a farking mess. you really need to clean up if you want someone else to show up.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:36:09 GMT -5
Post by special on Oct 17, 2010 19:36:09 GMT -5
NETA, so not a grudge, but a shot at someone I thought we were ging to struggle getting a read on anyway.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:37:31 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Oct 17, 2010 19:37:31 GMT -5
jeebus raj that is so all sorts of wrong.
idiot.
and you still need to move your fracking foot.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:41:14 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Oct 17, 2010 19:41:14 GMT -5
Raj, please don't tell me you did a grudge kill of Marcel?? It was me. This was my thinking: Fair enuff the remaining masons (god rest your soul skeez can confirm that bat did in fact visit ratty last Night. no one else at the bat cave, however. it really is a farking mess. you really need to clean up if you want someone else to show up. That almost sounds like you don't trust me. hmmmm. Anyways - with Raj killing Marcel it looks very much like the PFK's can't kill, only the scum can. So we deal with the scum, then the pfk's. So I suggest the folks in my unknown list role claim. Thoughts?
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:41:17 GMT -5
Post by special on Oct 17, 2010 19:41:17 GMT -5
jeebus raj that is so all sorts of wrong. idiot. and you still need to move your fracking foot. you, of all people, have no right to judge a Vig
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:41:19 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 17, 2010 19:41:19 GMT -5
Cookies, Elizabeth and Paul were effectively defending Dexter. Dexter raises the idea of Zedd being a scum godfather. Cookies, Elizabeth, Paul and Dexter cannot all be scum - that would give us 6 scum (Buddy, Galadriel) - very unlikely given the multiple PFK's we appear to have. Tho with only one kill N4 it would suggest that Gir was the only pfk killer. Assuming Dexter is scum, then 2 of the 5 unknown are scum. If Elizabeth is a godfather, then one of cookies, natlaw, nphase or paul needs to be scum. Gir indicated that there were at least two more PFK's. So possibly more than two. If we believe her, then in addition to SisC/Story, at least one of the unknown would also be PFK - but not Elizabeth (either town, or scum godfather) So 3 of the 5 are probably non-town. So 3 plus Dexter, SisC, Story. So probs 3 scum and 3 pfk still alive. Kindly point out where I was defending Dexter. Not jumping on a bandwagon and criticizing people for not paying attention to the thread is hardly defending.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:43:18 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 17, 2010 19:43:18 GMT -5
chitter!
Little Indian Girl: Shit... forgot my post restriction.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:45:05 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Oct 17, 2010 19:45:05 GMT -5
Stop everything.
I investigated Dexter.
Dexter IS A THREAT TO TOWN.
Vote Dexter
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:46:53 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Oct 17, 2010 19:46:53 GMT -5
btw, the monkey is going to take a time out and rub bathory's tummy. and hope that it is reciprocated. but for just a bit the smoothie takes a while to work it through his system.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:50:09 GMT -5
Post by special on Oct 17, 2010 19:50:09 GMT -5
Vote: Dexter
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:50:10 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Oct 17, 2010 19:50:10 GMT -5
not at all batty. there was just absolutely no activity at the bat cave last Night other than you wandering around. makes the monkey brain want a banana. capiche.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:52:44 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 17, 2010 19:52:44 GMT -5
the remaining masons (god rest your soul skeez can confirm that bat did in fact visit ratty last Night. no one else at the bat cave, however. it really is a farking mess. you really need to clean up if you want someone else to show up. Chitter? Little Indian Girl: Am I missing something here? Didn't the mod just say in the Dawn post that Red had the investigation power? I'm confused... The Corinthian, Townie Masonic-type person with some investigative power has gone to wherever creepy superheroes and supervillains go. [/color] The Quick: 1 BillMC: Batman 4 Inner Stickler: Jack Skellington 5 Sister Coyote: Death of Rats 8 Timmyfellinthewell: Rorschach 9 Cometothedarksidewehavecookies: Nakor 10 Storyteller: generic homicidal maniac 11 Peekercpa: Curious George 12 Severe Delays: Elizabeth Bathory 15 Special Ed: Dr. Rajesh Ramayan Koothrappali 17 Septimus: Dr. Strangelove 18 Hockey Monkey: Dexter Morgan 19 Natlaw: Nordom the Modron 21 NPhase: Iskaral Pust 22 Mahaloth: Zeddicus "Zedd" Zu'l Zorander 23 Paulwhoisaghost: Meeko The Dead: 14 Captain Pinkies: Twilight Fangirl, Town Hider24 Captain Pinkies: The Narrator, PFK Power Stealer20 Drain Bead: Buddy Christ, Scum Corrupter13 Suburban Plankton: Stay Puft Marshmallow man: Town Vigilante 16 Dirx: Lt. Columbo: Town Roleblocker3 Kat: Gir PFK Serial Killer6 Sinjin: (Eleanor) Big Sister Town Doctor7 Total Lost: Galadriel, Scum Limited Investigator2 redskeezix: The Corinthian, Town Mason25 Meeko: Marcel Marceau, Town One-Shot Mass RoleblockerDay 6 starts now. It will end at approximately 8PM EDT on Friday 22nd October.[/quote]
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 19:56:09 GMT -5
Post by Paulwhoisaghost on Oct 17, 2010 19:56:09 GMT -5
Stop everything. I investigated Dexter. Dexter IS A THREAT TO TOWN.Vote DexterDoesn't this just bring up the same question we've had all along? What dictates whether someone is a threat or not? Dexter's power can easily be harmful to town. But so can Raj's.... is Raj a threat to town? And speaking of Dexter.... why wasn't anyone jailed last Night? Dexter? Any answer for that?
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 20:02:00 GMT -5
Post by BillMc on Oct 17, 2010 20:02:00 GMT -5
Quick to find your own name in the comments, but make no comment about the rest of it; and totally miss Skellington being jailed.
I'm beginning to think you may be the scummy one on the short list.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 20:03:32 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 17, 2010 20:03:32 GMT -5
SQUEEK (I do not, in point of fact, know for certain who the remaining PFK(s) is(are). Just for the record. I had a small piece of information that has not done me a whit of good this game, and I can prevent any one lynch given twelve hours to decide to do so. I did not vote for The Narrator because I was miserable sick, god damn it, and missed the deadline, and I didn't vote for Gir because I thought the "all killers directed to one person" was an unlikely power -- which, just shows to go me, I guess -- and I didn't like the "Gir's posting restriction is annoying" arguments.)
SQUEEK (I certainly do not think that all the PFKs were of necessity anti-Town, however -- although this is not PIS, just an educated guess. Based on death reveal, Gir certainly was; whether or not The Narrator was I have no damn clue.)
SQUEEK (Also, to clarify something that's going to come up when you all come back around to looking at me again: I am not the person who's been boosting the vote. Nor do I have the faintest clue who is. Despite that word "governor" up there in your description, I am most emphatically Not a Politician.)
SQUEEK (Vote Dexter for all the reasons we all mentioned yesterday, plus Bats' reasons, plus Zedd's investigation)
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 20:05:56 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 17, 2010 20:05:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the smudge there, Bill. The only thing I recall saying that could be seen as defense of Dexter, was rebutting Jack's(?) opinion that the Jailer as described couldn't be played in a pro-town fashion. I also don't know how much sense it would make for me as a scummy to help push the swing to lynch Total yesterday, and I think it that is something I can claim. It boils down to a "scum would never do that" defense, I admit, but getting lynched for being spot-on about at least half of my "something stinks" analysis and helping to shift a big bandwagon to lynch a scummy Total was an epic Townie win and it will be ironic if I'm lynched for it.
All that being said, I'm just fine putting down a Vote: Dexter vote toDay. I hope you are truly trustworth, Zedd.
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Merestil Haye
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 20:06:07 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 17, 2010 20:06:07 GMT -5
GAAAAH! I left something out of the Dawn! PaulwhoisaMeeko. You stand convicted of forgetting your post restriction. You committed three separate offences Yesterday. D05.198D05.204D05.206You followed that with two posts Today. You are sentenced to 36 hours silence. *A glass cage forms around Meeko. A timer appears on it, reading 36:00:00. It immediately starts ticking down.* Yes, there's a small opaque area in the cage for those functions that require privacy.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 20:07:30 GMT -5
Post by special on Oct 17, 2010 20:07:30 GMT -5
Stop everything. I investigated Dexter. Dexter IS A THREAT TO TOWN.Vote DexterDoesn't this just bring up the same question we've had all along? What dictates whether someone is a threat or not? Dexter's power can easily be harmful to town. But so can Raj's.... is Raj a threat to town? And speaking of Dexter.... why wasn't anyone jailed last Night? Dexter? Any answer for that? I doubt that I would show up as a threat to Town. Granted, yes, I can kill Town players (and have killed 2). But, in that case, each of us is a threat to Town as we can vote to lynch Town players. I believe the 'threat to Town' players are those who can win the game while denying a win to Town players. That's how it is in every game I've played in. (the only exception might be Super Mario where I believe the Masons could win with Town or independent of Town) Dexter's power can obviously be bad for Town, but I believe he is a threat because he can win independent of Town. Even aside from that, if he's honest about being a jailer, his actions so far have been pro-Scum and anti-Town, which confirms my belief that he's Scum. However, Zedd's proclamation does nothing to influence me in considering Zedd's alignment. It's obvious a Scum Zedd would be fully prepared to bus his teammate at this point. In fact, I'm surprised that he investigated a likely lynch candidate instead of someone who is more unknown. Not a very pro-Town play. But it could just be foolish instead of Scum-motivated.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 20:08:47 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 17, 2010 20:08:47 GMT -5
Yes, there's a small opaque area in the cage for those functions that require privacy. SQUEEK (Well, thank the Powers That Be for that. Did you know raccoons have an actual bone in their boy-bits?)
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 20:10:41 GMT -5
Post by special on Oct 17, 2010 20:10:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the smudge there, Bill. The only thing I recall saying that could be seen as defense of Dexter, was rebutting Jack's(?) opinion that the Jailer as described couldn't be played in a pro-town fashion. I also don't know how much sense it would make for me as a scummy to help push the swing to lynch Total yesterday, and I think it that is something I can claim. It boils down to a "scum would never do that" defense, I admit, but getting lynched for being spot-on about at least half of my "something stinks" analysis and helping to shift a big bandwagon to lynch a scummy Total was an epic Townie win and it will be ironic if I'm lynched for it. All that being said, I'm just fine putting down a Vote: Dexter [/color] vote toDay. I hope you are truly trustworth, Zedd.[/quote] If Dexter flips Scum, helping to swing a vote from one Scum to another really does nothing for your credibility
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 20:12:17 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 17, 2010 20:12:17 GMT -5
That almost sounds like you don't trust me. hmmmm. SQUEEK (And now, to defend the Masons -- I assume they watched you because they felt you were a likely target for a murder, not because they don't trust you. I probably would have argued for the same thing; either to watch you or to watch Dexter, and watching Dexter would be far less likely to garner information.)
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 20:13:39 GMT -5
Post by ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies on Oct 17, 2010 20:13:39 GMT -5
And that won't change the irony if I were hung for it and flip town, which was why I said it.
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Day Six
Oct 17, 2010 20:25:29 GMT -5
Post by Mahaloth on Oct 17, 2010 20:25:29 GMT -5
Doesn't this just bring up the same question we've had all along? What dictates whether someone is a threat or not? Dexter's power can easily be harmful to town. But so can Raj's.... is Raj a threat to town? I know; we've discussed it. All I can tell you is that his investigation came back as a threat to town. To be more specific(but not to quote my PM) I was told that I analyzed the clouds and learned that Dexter is definitely a threat to town. Uh, I don't want to quote it, though, so that is all I'll say.
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