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Post by LightFoot on Apr 6, 2011 15:42:49 GMT -5
It looks like we can't quote posts from the Night 1 thread, but something from Post 8 from last Night struck me... LightFoot said "since we have been having time zone conversations would y'all care to share yours?" The problem is, I don't recall seeing a conversation about time zones anywhere on this board... It was Night I was making small talk? A few ppl myself included had posted that different time zones make for different "play times" I made a comment about my “play time” Day1… Greedy Smurf mentioned the time difference for him Day1 # 269…. gnarlycharlie I knew is in a different time zone…
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Post by Renata on Apr 6, 2011 15:57:29 GMT -5
Was the following comment ever answered? If so, I missed it. It looks like we can't quote posts from the Night 1 thread, but something from Post 8 from last Night struck me... LightFoot said "since we have been having time zone conversations would y'all care to share yours?" The problem is, I don't recall seeing a conversation about time zones anywhere on this board... I suppose there's an innocent explanation, but to assure the question does get answered: Vote: LightFootThis is not helping you with me. It wasn't a good question when it Suburban asked it without a vote attached; it's even worse now that you've repeated it with one. Of all the things to be suspicious of Lightfoot about that might justify a vote, you pick the worst one. It clearly was incorrect wherever it came from; if his vote from yesterday didn't count as game-related participation, I don't know what does. Your correction only alters it from potentially-scummy skimming to a potentially-scummy (because factually incorrect) smudge. You can't be serious.
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Post by guiri on Apr 6, 2011 16:07:45 GMT -5
I'm liking Renata's case on Septimus. This was probably a cross-post: Was the following comment ever answered? If so, I missed it. It looks like we can't quote posts from the Night 1 thread, but something from Post 8 from last Night struck me... LightFoot said "since we have been having time zone conversations would y'all care to share yours?"The problem is, I don't recall seeing a conversation about time zones anywhere on this board... I suppose there's an innocent explanation, but to assure the question does get answered: A poke vote. Rather than checking for yourself, you add a 3rd vote to Lightfoot to bring her 1 closer to FCoD? Inner Stickler. ... Septimus appears to be going off of Guiri’s summation alone, without looking for anything else, and that could be a problem. FWIW, I didn't use Guiri's summation, but did my own perusal using the Click / View 100 Most Recent Posts / Click option. (Whether my characterization of Mr. Stickler's participation was valid or not is another matter.) If that's the case, it was a mischaracterization with possible scum motivation. You ask a lot of questions, Miss Renata. A random comment, a complaint or an accusation? When are you going to start passing around Snacks, and if not, why not? What? If you think she's scum and has some nefarious use for the snacks, say so. If you think she' Town and has a use for the snacks, how do you expect her to answer? Vote Septimus
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Post by septimus on Apr 6, 2011 16:35:54 GMT -5
I won't answer Renata line-by-line, but some: Mental wrote: Okay, if anyone else is really Daphne, you probably need to counterclaim Ed. I still don't understand what the urgency of a Daphne claim would have been at that point. (I do agree Ed's claim is probably honest, and never stated otherwise.) Ed wrote: 5. Regarding the location of Daphne. I think it's probably best not to comment because that way the Scum won't know if I know where she is or not. I'm accused of stating that I found this statement odd. I still find it odd. Renata wrote: [septimus] asks Ed how it would work mechanically, scum controlling his vote ... Of all the questions that might be asked of Special Ed to try to get a handle on his alignment – that one? The question was neither directed at Ed, nor an attempt to get a handle on his alignment. I was, in fact, curious about the mechanics (and still am). Renata wrote: How'd you even notice how many votes I'd cast? This question was posed immediately after you noted that I'd posted a vote summary. Renata wrote: Septimus says twice, once each day, that *everybody* is suspicious, which is approximately as useful as saying that nobody is.) I wasn't trying to be "useful"; I was explaining, honestly, why I'm having trouble voting. I'm accused of ignoring Mr. Stickler's vote, smudging him, and then giving him a Snack anyway. Call that weird if you will, but where's the scumminess? I wrote that Stickler did have one significant game-related post (not zero); one of the reasons I gave him a Snack in the same post was to clarify that my comment was less accusatory, and more encouraging him to comment. Perhaps I've not explicitly detailed my motives for every Snack transfer, but neither have others. Sorry I missed Lightfoot's time zone explanation earlier.
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Post by septimus on Apr 6, 2011 16:49:07 GMT -5
Sorry I missed Lightfoot's time zone explanation earlier. And yes, I know I neglected to Unvote Lightfoot, without reiterating the case others have made. I will think again before Dusk. But the claim that I'm voting Lightfoot to save FCOD seems strange -- my vote almost got FCOD Lynched yesterDay.
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Post by guiri on Apr 6, 2011 16:49:38 GMT -5
Sorry I missed Lightfoot's time zone explanation earlier. No unvote?
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 6, 2011 16:53:23 GMT -5
Sorry I missed Lightfoot's time zone explanation earlier. And yes, I know I neglected to Unvote Lightfoot, without reiterating the case others have made. I will think again before Dusk. But the claim that I'm voting Lightfoot to save FCOD seems strange -- my vote almost got FCOD Lynched yesterDay. I would expect you to share YOUR reasons for the vote on me then. "because they made a good case" isn't quite enough for me
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Post by Renata on Apr 6, 2011 16:54:13 GMT -5
Are you prepared to unvote, then?
About you noticing the number of votes I cast -- ok, fine. That was a line I edited in right at the end and by then had forgotten the context, in light of which it is a silly question.
You never stated otherwise than that Ed's claim was probably honest? This very much implies the reverse:
You're arguing against a non-Ed Daphne reveal right here, on the grounds that Ed is heading for a lynch anyway due to his reveal being contradictory.
That too. And today you say that you're not giving them any town credit (in addition to not finding them scummy): how exactly does that even work, if you don't doubt Ed's claim?
Please answer my questions as best you can; I am trying to be open-minded here. I'd rather not have a repeat of the tunnel vision I had on Archangel.
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Post by guiri on Apr 6, 2011 16:57:56 GMT -5
But the claim that I'm voting Lightfoot to save FCOD seems strange -- my vote almost got FCOD Lynched yesterDay. Where was that claimed? I'm commenting on the fact that your vote, apparently intended as a mere poke, was putting a player to within 1 vote of being lynched.
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Post by Renata on Apr 6, 2011 17:09:00 GMT -5
It's not entirely accurate at that -- Septimus was the second vote on FCOD when Archangel already had four plus my promise to vote her above most other options if it came to that.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Apr 6, 2011 18:13:17 GMT -5
Hello all! I am so sorry that I have not contributed to the game much. RL has got my mind on other things. I work for DC Government and if the Feds shut down, I shut down. So come Monday I may have all the time in the world to read the boards.
I am trying to get caught up but it is so so hard. I tried going back to Day 1 boards and re-reading everything. That got me overwhelmed and a tad bit confused. Does any of the more experienced players have a good way to get caught up without reading every post?
Thanks!
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Post by Sister Coyote on Apr 6, 2011 18:29:28 GMT -5
Does any of the more experienced players have a good way to get caught up without reading every post? Not really, unfortunately. You can break it down into bite-sized chunks, though, by just focusing on one player or one group of players at a time.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Apr 6, 2011 18:39:51 GMT -5
Does any of the more experienced players have a good way to get caught up without reading every post? Not really, unfortunately. You can break it down into bite-sized chunks, though, by just focusing on one player or one group of players at a time. I got to page 5 last night of Day 1 of the whole Ed and Pinkies debacle. I know I will never get those brain cells back. I will start where I left off and get into the ED is Daphne discussion.
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Post by Renata on Apr 6, 2011 18:43:10 GMT -5
Yep. Give a quick once over to see if anyone says anything that really stands out; if nothing does (or if you have no hope that anything will), pick a hypothesis (such as Storyteller's "scum might have voted for Ed" or my implied "there will be scum among the posters with low-medium post counts" and start there). If you find something interesting, say so.
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Post by Renata on Apr 6, 2011 18:43:47 GMT -5
I am quite amused.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Apr 6, 2011 20:36:52 GMT -5
I have made progress, up to page 12 now on day 1. I do have to say I am suspicious of the whole ED/Mental Guy thing, more so Mental Guy. Yes, maybe Mental guy can back up a claim that there is a Daphne, but I am not sure I believe his role in it. It's a gut feeling. I will keep reading and maybe things will change.
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Post by special on Apr 6, 2011 20:52:07 GMT -5
I have made progress, up to page 12 now on day 1. I do have to say I am suspicious of the whole ED/Mental Guy thing, more so Mental Guy. Yes, maybe Mental guy can back up a claim that there is a Daphne, but I am not sure I believe his role in it. It's a gut feeling. I will keep reading and maybe things will change. When you get to the part where he points out that he can rescue Daphne from being kidnapped, a bit of information I was holding back, let me know. So, to summarize... If I'm Scum and he's not, why hasn't the real Daphne counterclaimed me? If he's Scum and I'm not, why hasn't my real rescuer counterclaimed him? If we're both Scum, that means we took a chance that there was no Daphne...
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 6, 2011 20:53:05 GMT -5
Off work, home , hit my 'play time' anyone about?
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Post by special on Apr 6, 2011 20:55:24 GMT -5
of course, scuzzlebutt, it's a bold gambit for a Scum to post that since I'm certain this has been discussed on the Scum board.
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Post by special on Apr 6, 2011 20:56:32 GMT -5
Off work, home , hit my 'play time' anyone about? I'm always here to taunt you discuss things with you..
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Post by Joanie on Apr 6, 2011 20:58:29 GMT -5
VOTE LIGHTFOOT
because...
I feel like all the I am town, I am town is a little much. If you are town great but why mention it in "every" post.
Sorry for the short post yet again but I spent a lot of my gaming time reading and re reading so I have to tend to RL crap. I will try to be back tonight if not tomorrow before day end.
Please anyone feel free to give me some feed back, I'm feelng a little in over my head with this game.
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 6, 2011 21:05:40 GMT -5
VOTE LIGHTFOOTbecause... I feel like all the I am town, I am town is a little much. If you are town great but why mention it in "every" post. Sorry for the short post yet again but I spent a lot of my gaming time reading and re reading so I have to tend to RL crap. I will try to be back tonight if not tomorrow before day end. Please anyone feel free to give me some feed back, I'm feelng a little in over my head with this game. [sarcasm] Well lovely , pop in, give me the one over vote (if my count is right) and explain bupkiss. You darned ol active player you [/sarcasm]
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 6, 2011 21:08:00 GMT -5
NETA arg I forgot the bleach thing
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 6, 2011 21:10:30 GMT -5
Off work, home , hit my 'play time' anyone about? I'm always here to taunt you discuss things with you.. What would you like to beat up tonight?
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Post by special on Apr 6, 2011 21:11:23 GMT -5
NETA arg I forgot the bleach thing that's not good. it makes her vote count double! 1~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1 Not true
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 6, 2011 21:14:06 GMT -5
NETA arg I forgot the bleach thing that's not good. it makes her vote count double! 1~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1 Not true It does not appear bold so it might not count yet anyway * * not true either
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 6, 2011 21:36:53 GMT -5
I have made progress, up to page 12 now on day 1. I do have to say I am suspicious of the whole ED/Mental Guy thing, more so Mental Guy. Yes, maybe Mental guy can back up a claim that there is a Daphne, but I am not sure I believe his role in it. It's a gut feeling. I will keep reading and maybe things will change. When you get to the part where he points out that he can rescue Daphne from being kidnapped, a bit of information I was holding back, let me know. So, to summarize... If I'm Scum and he's not, why hasn't the real Daphne counterclaimed me? If he's Scum and I'm not, why hasn't my real rescuer counterclaimed him? If we're both Scum, that means we took a chance that there was no Daphne... I think Daphne exists ( showed up in the D2 colour AFTER the claiming) And right now I believe that Ed is said Daphne. IF Daphne does not have a real rescuer ( that word looks weird ) Then the general belief of Mental Guy being assumed town flies away? (Unless you, Ed have information that you have a rescuer ?) A comment like that without a vote change may raise your ire (generic you) I would like to see what Ed answers. Or anyone for that matter
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Post by special on Apr 6, 2011 21:41:13 GMT -5
When you get to the part where he points out that he can rescue Daphne from being kidnapped, a bit of information I was holding back, let me know. So, to summarize... If I'm Scum and he's not, why hasn't the real Daphne counterclaimed me? If he's Scum and I'm not, why hasn't my real rescuer counterclaimed him? If we're both Scum, that means we took a chance that there was no Daphne... I think Daphne exists ( showed up in the D2 colour AFTER the claiming) And right now I believe that Ed is said Daphne. IF Daphne does not have a real rescuer ( that word looks weird ) Then the general belief of Mental Guy being assumed town flies away? (Unless you, Ed have information that you have a rescuer ?) A comment like that without a vote change may raise your ire (generic you) I would like to see what Ed answers. Or anyone for that matter I am aware that there is another player who can set me free.
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Post by LightFoot on Apr 6, 2011 21:47:48 GMT -5
I think Daphne exists ( showed up in the D2 colour AFTER the claiming) And right now I believe that Ed is said Daphne. IF Daphne does not have a real rescuer ( that word looks weird ) Then the general belief of Mental Guy being assumed town flies away? (Unless you, Ed have information that you have a rescuer ?) A comment like that without a vote change may raise your ire (generic you) I would like to see what Ed answers. Or anyone for that matter I am aware that there is another player who can set me free. I did not recall reading that bit before, so barring another jumping up I will believe MentalGuy at this time. (It just occured to me and since I was called on NOT sharing my suspicions I did)
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Apr 6, 2011 22:31:07 GMT -5
I have made progress, up to page 12 now on day 1. I do have to say I am suspicious of the whole ED/Mental Guy thing, more so Mental Guy. Yes, maybe Mental guy can back up a claim that there is a Daphne, but I am not sure I believe his role in it. It's a gut feeling. I will keep reading and maybe things will change. When you get to the part where he points out that he can rescue Daphne from being kidnapped, a bit of information I was holding back, let me know. So, to summarize... If I'm Scum and he's not, why hasn't the real Daphne counterclaimed me? If he's Scum and I'm not, why hasn't my real rescuer counterclaimed him? If we're both Scum, that means we took a chance that there was no Daphne... I can field this one, if you'd like. Oh wait, I already have A few other thoughts, while I'm still trying to really catch up: I'm not getting a strong Scum vibe from LightFoot, though she does seem to be pushing every single "Scum-tell" button she can find. Maybe it's because it just seems too obvious... FCOD hasn't really said much of anything, made a self-admitted 'weak vote' Yesterday, and made a very 'safe' vote Today. I still don't believe Ed's story, but I seem to be in a very small minority there. I'm feeling suspicious of Renata, mostly because it seems like she's been tossing votes out left and right, hoping one of them will stick. I'm still trying to make sense of the past 48 hours worth of posts. I'll be back with further analysis and a vote in a bit.
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