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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 9:26:48 GMT -5
Post by Archangel on Jul 14, 2011 9:26:48 GMT -5
Many times (and different games) I have read “If you can see it so can Scum” . What If there is indeed something that Scum has not deduced? I have seen where Scum said “I didn’t see/think of that” (yes it was me) I understand. I didn't see the condition in your statement so I thought you were saying that it was something obvious to all: You said: Your "magic bag" I can't say at the moment it's anti TOWN comment is really pinging me at the moment. If you've seen something regarding SCUM then surely it's best to share it. Archangel may well be bluffing with this whole thing but, as far as I've understood, she's admitted that part of her suspicion of Colby was based on a faulty deduction/assumption/reasoning (and presumably not useful for catching scum) and that she is now less suspicious as half of her case is gone, she's not claiming to have discovered a way to hunt scum and she's not claiming that Colby is clear of suspicion. Sure, it's weird that she'd pop in on D1 when Trepa was leading with 8 votes to Colby's 3, say that she'd seen something incriminating about Colby and someone else, thought it may be anti-town to reveal but then decided to go ahead, promise to do a WoW on Colby, and then disappear till after Day end only to pop up the next Day saying she'd messed up and refuse to explain how. Yes, Guiri, you're correct with this first paragraph. With the second paragraph...weird strange or weird suspicious? I fully admit to being weird/strange in that my mind works very differently than everyone else's. For weird/suspicious, I think that would be more suspicious if Trepa had flipped scum, no? At any rate, the case on Trepa was a reasonable one. It just turned out not to be correct. However, I feel like everyone who voted Trepa yesterday could get away with "well, that was a reasonable case." So, since I was voting Trepa, I wanted to get some other suspicions down since this Day One vote on Trepa isn't all that useful from a voting record standpoint. (Although I am interested in the people who failed to vote.) I was hoping others might do the same. But, as it turned out, I didn't make it back here. Which sucks, but it is what it is.
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 10:00:01 GMT -5
Post by texcat on Jul 14, 2011 10:00:01 GMT -5
@ Archangel Actually he did answer. Why did you ask? Sorry. I didn't make it back for end of day. The reveals have slightly changed my stance on Colby. The first reason I was suspecting him, it is not pro-town to share right now, but the reveals somewhat assuaged my suspicion on this front. The second reason was that he seemed to be flip-flopping on Trepa depending on how the tide was turning. Colby, have you ever played scum before? Off topic- I had to look up assuaged lol Back to the questions at hand, why not reveal the first reason? I agree that it's not pro-town, but that decision is up to you I agree that my vote on Trepa was based on a technically, basically.. but if I was around when Trepa posted her PM, I would of gladly have changed it. Unfortuntely, I was not around to do so, due to real life. As to the scum question (kinda of a weird question if you ask me), but i have never played as scum. Not sure where you are going with that question, honestly, except to accuse me as being scum, and I assure you that I'm not. I remembered this post because Colby flipped one more time in his stance on Trepa. Yesterday he first didn't find the rabids reference scummy. Then he did. And Today he claims he would have gladly unvoted if he had been around. This smells like a scum who knew that Trepa was town, knew there was nothing wrong with the term rabids, then reconsidered and found an easy bandwagon for their vote, and is now worried that the vote might cause them to look bad and is trying to retract it. Colby is probably not vanilla, based on his same animal comment. I still think that he is scum. Outrun Colby
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 10:33:49 GMT -5
Post by CatInASuit on Jul 14, 2011 10:33:49 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I don't really have time to play and have asked for a sub. so until one comes along... Innersticks at least answered my question. Going back over colby and Subplank as well as they have exhibited similar behaviour over the trepa vote. Colby - Comment on rabid animals - comment on all scum not being the same animal, thinks everyone should be a different animal - reason for voting, used scum and rabids interchangeably - would have changed vote if trepa had posted PM - votes guiri then unvotes guiri First change of mind, I can almost understand, but voting/unvoting guiri Sub Plank - Doesn't agree with guiri's vote on trepa about rabinds - says only likely trepa would have rabids in pm if scum - comment on bandwagons - responds to questions over changing reasoning - #D2.54: comment on place in vote count, says it was 8/2 trepa/guiri, actually it was 4 for trepa and 1 for a lot of other people - see#D1.120 - votes JBG over CP vote Really don't like the mistruth about the posiiton on the lynch. After both he and colby voted, trepa went from 3 to 5. Hmm, both have a slightly different take on why they changed their minds and gave reason. I don't like colby's flip-flop on guiri as it erally stands out as someone looking for a reason to vote and getting knocked back. But I really don't like SubPlank misstating his place in the Trepa lynch. It's a great way to partially divert attention from yourself if there is already a large wagon there, but given that his vote, as well as colby's, were failry fundamental in getting trepa lynched, it has more of my attention. Outrun: suburban PlanktonOh and I agree with Ed about Pinkies, in that a Vig is probably the best idea for the matter.
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 10:54:10 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 14, 2011 10:54:10 GMT -5
An open letter to our Vigilante: Dear Killing Machine, Please use your power to cull from our midst the non-participatory Captain Pinkies this Night. Respectfully, Ed Ed, you are voting for Pinkies, and at the time you posted this he was tied for the lynch lead. Do you want him lynched, or do you want him vigged? We can't do both.
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 10:54:54 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 14, 2011 10:54:54 GMT -5
But I really don't like SubPlank misstating his place in the Trepa lynch. It's a great way to partially divert attention from yourself if there is already a large wagon there, but given that his vote, as well as colby's, were failry fundamental in getting trepa lynched, it has more of my attention. He wasn't asked about his vote, Ginger asked him about his post D1#190 which came just after Sister Coyote voted Colby making it 8-2.
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 10:59:20 GMT -5
Post by Archangel on Jul 14, 2011 10:59:20 GMT -5
@ Archangel Actually he did answer. Why did you ask? Off topic- I had to look up assuaged lol Back to the questions at hand, why not reveal the first reason? I agree that it's not pro-town, but that decision is up to you I agree that my vote on Trepa was based on a technically, basically.. but if I was around when Trepa posted her PM, I would of gladly have changed it. Unfortuntely, I was not around to do so, due to real life. As to the scum question (kinda of a weird question if you ask me), but i have never played as scum. Not sure where you are going with that question, honestly, except to accuse me as being scum, and I assure you that I'm not. I remembered this post because Colby flipped one more time in his stance on Trepa. Yesterday he first didn't find the rabids reference scummy. Then he did. And Today he claims he would have gladly unvoted if he had been around. This smells like a scum who knew that Trepa was town, knew there was nothing wrong with the term rabids, then reconsidered and found an easy bandwagon for their vote, and is now worried that the vote might cause them to look bad and is trying to retract it. Colby is probably not vanilla, based on his same animal comment. I still think that he is scum. Outrun ColbyThanks, Texcat. I missed that post. And it makes me more suspicious of Colby based on how defensively he answered it. I asked because I thought if he hadn't played scum before and was scum now, he might go ahead and make a statement like the one he did which clearly shows he's not vanilla town. If he had played scum before, I thought he might be more aware of being careful of discussing PMs. A "no" answer wouldn't have been enough to make me vote him, but this defensive response to my question plus his flip-flop on Trepa is. Outrun Colby
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 11:11:00 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 14, 2011 11:11:00 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I don't really have time to play and have asked for a sub. so until one comes along... Innersticks at least answered my question. Going back over colby and Subplank as well as they have exhibited similar behaviour over the trepa vote. Colby - Comment on rabid animals - comment on all scum not being the same animal, thinks everyone should be a different animal - reason for voting, used scum and rabids interchangeably - would have changed vote if trepa had posted PM - votes guiri then unvotes guiri First change of mind, I can almost understand, but voting/unvoting guiri Sub Plank - Doesn't agree with guiri's vote on trepa about rabinds - says only likely trepa would have rabids in pm if scum - comment on bandwagons - responds to questions over changing reasoning - #D2.54: comment on place in vote count, says it was 8/2 trepa/guiri, actually it was 4 for trepa and 1 for a lot of other people - see#D1.120 - votes JBG over CP vote Really don't like the mistruth about the posiiton on the lynch. After both he and colby voted, trepa went from 3 to 5. Hmm, both have a slightly different take on why they changed their minds and gave reason. I don't like colby's flip-flop on guiri as it erally stands out as someone looking for a reason to vote and getting knocked back. But I really don't like SubPlank misstating his place in the Trepa lynch. It's a great way to partially divert attention from yourself if there is already a large wagon there, but given that his vote, as well as colby's, were failry fundamental in getting trepa lynched, it has more of my attention. Outrun: suburban PlanktonOh and I agree with Ed about Pinkies, in that a Vig is probably the best idea for the matter. Regarding the vote count issue: You refer to my D2.54 post gnarlycharlie pointed out something that I hadn't noticed, but which is bugging me now. Trepa has been the de facto Lynchee for quite some time now, and there seems to have been no effort to get a bandwagon going anywhere else. Would the Scum be that easily willing to sacrifice one of their own on Day 1? I mean, the case against Trepa is at least as good as any other case Today, but it's not exactly a slam dunk. I'm starting to wonder if we're about to make a mistake. That being said, I'm not changing my vote just yet, because I can't make a better case against anyone else right now, but I feel like it's worth pointing out. On another note, does anyone know where Metallic Squink has run off to? SP You post this right after Gnarly posts about Colby's flip flop and the votes are piling on him ( Colby). The vote count at the time I posted this was Trepa - 8, colby - 2. I wouldn't exactly describe that as the votes 'piling on'. Other than that slight quibble on your phrasing, what you have stated here is true. Do you have a point you're trying to make? I said "the vote count at the time I posted this", referring to the post that JBG had quoted. That post was D1.190. By my count, the votes at that point stood as follows: Trepa Mayfield (8): guiri (76), LightFoot (99), Silver Jan (117), colby11 (132), Suburban Plankton (134), Captain Pinkies (141), cassidyscarlet (149), Archangel (161) colby11 (2): gnarlycharlie (180), Sister Coyote (189) Special Ed (1): fubbleskag (67) Sister Coyote (1): moodymitchy (103) cassidyscarlet (1): JustBeingGinger (123) Silver Jan (1): Trepa Mayfield (138) And I have a problem with your whole post here which has nothing to do with the fact that you voted for me. You came in and told us you haven't had time to play, asked to be subbed out, and then threw down a vote. Do you plan to come back in order to justify your vote? Or do you plan to leave that to your sub, assuming one is found before the end of the Day?
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 11:26:16 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 14, 2011 11:26:16 GMT -5
But I really don't like SubPlank misstating his place in the Trepa lynch. It's a great way to partially divert attention from yourself if there is already a large wagon there, but given that his vote, as well as colby's, were failry fundamental in getting trepa lynched, it has more of my attention. One more thing I have issue with here. I disagree with the statement that mine and colby's votes were 'fairly fundamental' in getting Trepa lynched. Before we voted, the count was Trepa-3, guiri-2, and a 4-way tie at 1. After we voted, it was 5-2-1, but it was still 'midDay'. Take a look at the votes much later in the Day, after quite a bit of voting/unvoting. As of Post 300, the count was Trepa-5, colby-5, and a 3-way tie at 1. Then Trepa unvotes colby, followed by Special Ed and moodymitchy casting late votes for Trepa, and the Day ends in a 7-4 vote. I'd say those late votes were much more 'fundamental' in the lynch than anything that happened 3 (real-life) days earlier. match pace with JustBeingGingeroutrun CatInaSuitfor grossly misrepresenting the voting on Day 1 and for his drive-by "Sub me out but not before I cast a vote" post.
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 12:30:58 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 14, 2011 12:30:58 GMT -5
Because the day is almost over, and I have to say myself from being lynched
Outrun Suburban Plankton
Don't want to do this, but I have no choice in the matter
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 12:32:27 GMT -5
Post by Colby11 on Jul 14, 2011 12:32:27 GMT -5
NETA- I meant to say save myself from being lynched, not say....
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 12:35:09 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 14, 2011 12:35:09 GMT -5
@ Archangel, just a weird series of events, I'm not seeing a scum motivation for your D1 comment or for drawing so much attention to yourself toDay.
I'm slightly less suspicious of Colby than MoodyMitchy but will reconsider my vote if it remains tied.
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 13:06:34 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Jul 14, 2011 13:06:34 GMT -5
@ Archangel, just a weird series of events, I'm not seeing a scum motivation for your D1 comment or for drawing so much attention to yourself toDay. I'm slightly less suspicious of Colby than MoodyMitchy but will reconsider my vote if it remains tied. If you're less suspicious of colby11 than you are of me.... then I'd be very suspicious of you IF it remains a tie and you change your vote and whoever gets lynched as result of your change , flips TOWN. I am most suspicious of Archangel so my vote stays there.... yesterDay I was most suspicious of Trepa Mayfield so my vote went there... Until we have some more to go on I don't think we can go changing votes just to tip the balance... but that's just my opinion
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 13:30:16 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 14, 2011 13:30:16 GMT -5
An open letter to our Vigilante: Dear Killing Machine, Please use your power to cull from our midst the non-participatory Captain Pinkies this Night. Respectfully, Ed Ed, you are voting for Pinkies, and at the time you posted this he was tied for the lynch lead. Do you want him lynched, or do you want him vigged? We can't do both. This is true. Despite his place in the lead (was it 2-2 at that point) I felt it unlikely that he would actually be lynched.
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 13:36:14 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 14, 2011 13:36:14 GMT -5
@ Archangel, just a weird series of events, I'm not seeing a scum motivation for your D1 comment or for drawing so much attention to yourself toDay. I'm slightly less suspicious of Colby than MoodyMitchy but will reconsider my vote if it remains tied. I would rather see colby lynched at this point. I also want to register a disagreement. I see this as a move that a Scum Archangel would make. She plays unconventionally. Shemight have thought she could get by with what she said unquestioned or at least without answering the questions, which she really hasn't done yet still, correct? She's stated many 'things' that made her more and less suspicious, but she hasn't identified those things, has she? (or maybe I'm just failing to understand.) If colby flips Scum, then I'd think it quite likely that Archangel is Scum also. match speed: Captain Pinkies (odd as it seems like he's not moving at all) outrun: colby11
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 13:36:50 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 14, 2011 13:36:50 GMT -5
If you're less suspicious of colby11 than you are of me.... then I'd be very suspicious of you IF it remains a tie and you change your vote and whoever gets lynched as result of your change , flips TOWN. That makes sense and I'd deserve suspicion in that case. Are you saying I shouldn't consider moving my vote to my Colby if there's no chance of you being lynched and I think Colby is more likely to be scum than Suburban?
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 13:59:18 GMT -5
Post by moodymitchy on Jul 14, 2011 13:59:18 GMT -5
You can consider it sure.... but if it's your vote that makes the difference then how do you think that will look if colby11 flips TOWN...
We'd still be left wondering about Suburban Plankton and people might then see your vote as possibly saving a SCUM buddy.
Archangel is to my mind being very "wishy washy" with her responses.. which is why I'm still bothered by her...
though I must say that colby11 with his "save ass" vote has raised my eyebrows a little.
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 14:29:17 GMT -5
Post by gnarlycharlie on Jul 14, 2011 14:29:17 GMT -5
You can consider it sure.... but if it's your vote that makes the difference then how do you think that will look if colby11 flips TOWN... We'd still be left wondering about Suburban Plankton and people might then see your vote as possibly saving a SCUM buddy. Archangel is to my mind being very "wishy washy" with her responses.. which is why I'm still bothered by her... though I must say that colby11 with his "save ass" vote has raised my eyebrows a little. but you also saved ass when we last played in FB and you were Town. as far as i'm concerned it's expected behavior. both Town and scum would do that. that said, i still find colby suspicious. i held back voting for him because he was giving off a non-vanilla vibe. however, he hasn't claimed. granted he hasn't been lynch leader long, it is late in the Day. so pending a claim: Outrun Colby
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 14:54:35 GMT -5
Post by Captain Pinkies on Jul 14, 2011 14:54:35 GMT -5
An open letter to our Vigilante: Dear Killing Machine, Please use your power to cull from our midst the non-participatory Captain Pinkies this Night. Respectfully, Ed Damn! Can't get any love from you.... Instead of targeting me tonight, please go after SCUM... Thanks!
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 14:58:14 GMT -5
Post by gnarlycharlie on Jul 14, 2011 14:58:14 GMT -5
An open letter to our Vigilante: Dear Killing Machine, Please use your power to cull from our midst the non-participatory Captain Pinkies this Night. Respectfully, Ed Damn! Can't get any love from you.... Instead of targeting me tonight, please go after SCUM... Thanks! perhaps it might help that you vote toDay and explain why.
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 14:58:51 GMT -5
Post by special on Jul 14, 2011 14:58:51 GMT -5
An open letter to our Vigilante: Dear Killing Machine, Please use your power to cull from our midst the non-participatory Captain Pinkies this Night. Respectfully, Ed Damn! Can't get any love from you.... Instead of targeting me tonight, please go after SCUM... Thanks! On a serious note, Captain, why do you sign up for games and then not participate? What exactly do you get out of the game that you wouldn't get by just reading along?
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 14:59:14 GMT -5
Post by Silver Jan on Jul 14, 2011 14:59:14 GMT -5
An open letter to our Vigilante: Dear Killing Machine, Please use your power to cull from our midst the non-participatory Captain Pinkies this Night. Respectfully, Ed Damn! Can't get any love from you.... Instead of targeting me tonight, please go after SCUM... Thanks! I loves ya Pinkies but for goodness sakes PLAY!!!!!
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 15:00:01 GMT -5
Post by LightFoot on Jul 14, 2011 15:00:01 GMT -5
Respectfully requesting
Vote count and EOD countdown please
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 15:01:01 GMT -5
Post by Captain Pinkies on Jul 14, 2011 15:01:01 GMT -5
@ Captain Pinkies, I'm thirsty, what do you suggest? I suggest a ice cold moose drool....
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 15:03:14 GMT -5
Post by Suburban Plankton on Jul 14, 2011 15:03:14 GMT -5
Because the day is almost over, and I have to say myself from being lynched Outrun Suburban PlanktonDon't want to do this, but I have no choice in the matter So you don't think I'm Scum, and this is purely a vote to save your own hide?
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 15:06:14 GMT -5
Post by guiri on Jul 14, 2011 15:06:14 GMT -5
Unofficial Vote Count
Colby (5): SisterCoyote[126], TexCat[181], Archangel[185], SpecialEd[194], GnarlyCharlie[196] SuburbanPlankton (4): Lightfoot[158], SilverJan[160], CatInASuit[182], Colby[188] Captain Pinkies (1): SpecialEd[2-194], JustBeingGinger[108] Texcat (1): InnerStickler[12] Archangel (1): MoodyMitchy[98] MoodyMitchy (1): Guiri[104] CatInASuit (1): SuburbanPlankton[187] Guiri (0): SilverJan[65-160], Colby[110-129] JustBeingGinger (0): SuburbanPlankton[124-187]
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 15:08:27 GMT -5
Post by gnarlycharlie on Jul 14, 2011 15:08:27 GMT -5
SP, now you can vote for Captain Pinkies.
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 15:09:39 GMT -5
Post by Captain Pinkies on Jul 14, 2011 15:09:39 GMT -5
so.. reading through today....... the person who is bothering me the most is Archangel..... I don't like the magic bag, and her lack of clarification about it...
Vote: OUT RUN ARCHANGEL
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 15:13:28 GMT -5
Post by Captain Pinkies on Jul 14, 2011 15:13:28 GMT -5
OUTRUN ARCHANGEL
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 15:13:34 GMT -5
Post by gnarlycharlie on Jul 14, 2011 15:13:34 GMT -5
Unofficial Vote CountColby (5): SisterCoyote[126], TexCat[181], Archangel[185], SpecialEd[194], GnarlyCharlie[196] SuburbanPlankton (4): Lightfoot[158], SilverJan[160], CatInASuit[182], Colby[188] Captain Pinkies (1): SpecialEd[2-194], JustBeingGinger[108] Texcat (1): InnerStickler[12] Archangel (1): MoodyMitchy[98] MoodyMitchy (1): Guiri[104] CatInASuit (1): SuburbanPlankton[187] Guiri (0): SilverJan[65-160], Colby[110-129]JustBeingGinger (0): SuburbanPlankton[124-187] i concur. of course we could be both wrong. ;D
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Day 2
Jul 14, 2011 15:14:58 GMT -5
Post by Sister Coyote on Jul 14, 2011 15:14:58 GMT -5
[OOG] There's no Going to be Away thread, but starting from tonight through next Saturday I will be out of town with pretty much no internet access at all.[/OOG]
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