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Post by Meeko on Jul 16, 2011 23:02:50 GMT -5
Day 3 has begun. Give me just one second to gather everything, and apply color. [My shift at work ended at 11:30 tonight. I just got in.] - - Alexis entered the Zoo through the employee entrance. Instinctively, she knew where she was going, the on-going epidemic has been the only constant in the zoo, what with the monkeys returning, and the turtles taking to the airports..... www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/8607424/Turtles-halt-flights-at-JFK-airport.htmlBut the lemmings were still in one place. If you were expecting them to be some place else, you would be wrong, dead wrong. - [[ Speaking of Dead....... ]] Alexis reaches down and grabs the body of Texcat
a Town Lemmus sibiricus, better known as a Siberian Brown Lemming.
------------------- It is now Day 3. Day 3 ends on July 22 at 12:01 AM. Or just under 4 days, 23 hours, 29 minutes.
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Post by Silver Jan on Jul 17, 2011 1:50:58 GMT -5
Scum must have been laughing their heads off with all the talk about Lemmings when they had one in their midst. So I wonder if all the scum are Lemmings?
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Post by guiri on Jul 17, 2011 2:34:01 GMT -5
D1 vote count, E&OE:
TrepaMayfield (7): Guiri #76, Lightfoot #99-270, SilverJan #117-269, Colby #133, SuburbanPlankton #134, CaptainPinkies #141, CassidyScarlet #149-291, Archangel #161, SpecialEd #311, MoodyMitchy #313
Colby (4): GnarlyCharlie #180, SisterCoyote #189, TrepaMayfield #204-305, Texcat #290, CassidyScarlet #291
SpecialEd (1): Fubbleskag #68 CassidyScarlet (1): Ginger #123 Texcat (1): Lightfoot #270
Guiri (0): TrepaMayfield #59-83, CassidyScarlet #109-149, SilverJan #275-277 Metallic/Inner (0): TrepaMayfield #98-138 SisterCoyote (0): MoodyMitchy #103-313 SilverJan (0): TrepaMayfield #138-204
Not voting (6): Metallic/Inner, Deni, Storyteller, SilverJan, TrepaMayfield, CatInASuit
D2 Vote Count:
Colby (6): SisterCoyote[126], TexCat[181], Archangel[185], SpecialEd[194], GnarlyCharlie[196], JustBeingGinger[221]
SuburbanPlankton (4): Lightfoot[158], SilverJan[160], CatInASuit[182], Colby[188]
Archangel (2): MoodyMitchy[98], CaptainPinkies [207]
Texcat (1): InnerStickler[12] MoodyMitchy (1): Guiri[104] CatInASuit (1): SuburbanPlankton[187]
Captain Pinkies (0): SpecialEd[2-194], JustBeingGinger[108-221] Guiri (0): SilverJan[65-160], Colby[110-129] JustBeingGinger (0): SuburbanPlankton[124-187]
Not voting: Deni, Fubbleskag, Storyteller
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Post by guiri on Jul 17, 2011 2:36:43 GMT -5
Alive/claims: 1. SpecialEd 2. CaptainPinkies 3. SisterCoyote 4. GnarlyCharlie 5. JustBeingGinger 6. Archangel 7. InnerStickler 9. moodymitchy 10. LightFoot 11. Guiri 12. SuburbanPlankton 15. Deni 16. Storyteller 17. SilverJan, Wrangel Island Lemming, Vanilla 18. Fubbleskag, Elephant, Cop 20. CatInASuit
Dead/quarantined: 19. TrepaMayfield, Amur Lemming, Vanilla, lynched D1 14. CassidyScarlet, Siberian Brown Lemming, Vanilla, killed N1 13. Colby11, Amur Lemming, Vanilla, lynched D2 8. Texcat, Siberian Brown Lemming, Vanilla, killed N2
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Post by guiri on Jul 17, 2011 3:14:13 GMT -5
Texcat looks like a revenge kill, she was on Colby's case D1 and D2 and I recall having a VT vibe from her reaction to SilverJan.
Major townie points to SisterCoyote and GnarlyCharlie for their votes on Colby D1 and D2, none to JustBeingGinger whose vote looks like a late bus to gain some cred, some to Archangel and SpecialEd, more if Suburban turns out to be Town.
@ JustBeingGinger, can you explain your vote on Colby? You said you were suspicious of Suburban's flip-flop but didn't mention Colby's flip-flop despite having read the case. When asked, you said you found Suburban more suspicious because he wasn't questioned about his flip-flop. When you voted Colby, you said you were suspicious because he was questioned. I did not understand your explanation shortly before Dusk.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Jul 17, 2011 7:13:27 GMT -5
Texcat looks like a revenge kill, she was on Colby's case D1 and D2 and I recall having a VT vibe from her reaction to SilverJan. Major townie points to SisterCoyote and GnarlyCharlie for their votes on Colby D1 and D2, none to JustBeingGinger whose vote looks like a late bus to gain some cred, some to Archangel and SpecialEd, more if Suburban turns out to be Town. @ JustBeingGinger, can you explain your vote on Colby? You said you were suspicious of Suburban's flip-flop but didn't mention Colby's flip-flop despite having read the case. When asked, you said you found Suburban more suspicious because he wasn't questioned about his flip-flop. When you voted Colby, you said you were suspicious because he was questioned. I did not understand your explanation shortly before Dusk. I mentioned SP flip flop and not colby's simply because Colby's had already been questioned on it and it was brought up by Gnarly, meanwhile no one was mentioned SP's flip flop simply because SP gave reasons for it. I was suspicious of the timing on when SP did his switch. The reason I voted Colby over SP was for the post about him voting for SP and stating that he didn't want to do it but he had to in order to save him. IF you are town, throwing a vote to save yourself, you don't feel that guilt because you don't know if that person you are voting for is SCUM or not. If you are SCUM and you are voting to save you life by voting TOWN, you really don't have that guilt. If you are voting one of your fellow SCUM members, you do feel that guilt. I know I felt it when i voted for meeko in Wonderland. having said that, Outrun Suburban PlanktonIn the posts that Colby made with voting for you, see below Because the day is almost over, and I have to say myself from being lynched Outrun Suburban PlanktonDon't want to do this, but I have no choice in the matter and NETA- I meant to say save myself from being lynched, not say.... You then posted and asked this question: Because the day is almost over, and I have to say myself from being lynched BLEACHED BY ME Outrun Suburban Plankton[/color] Don't want to do this, but I have no choice in the matter[/quote] So you don't think I'm Scum, and this is purely a vote to save your own hide?[/quote] I think Colby was clearly stating that he was doing it to save himself. Why did you want Colby to state that you were not SCUM. Were you afraid that when he flipped SCUM that it shined the light on you for what he stated? Was it a flip-flop, though? I'm not so sure. At first, colby says he has no problem with Trepa's use of the word 'rabid' as a collective for the Scum in this game. A day later, he says that after thinking about it, the circumstance regarding the use of the word, and the fact that Trepa uses both 'scum' and 'rabids' in the same post bothers him, and so he votes. I don't consider that so much a 'flip-flop' as a 'change of mind after giving the matter closer consideration'. The former might be a Scum tell (though Town is very often guilty of it as well); the latter is good Town play (though Scum will ofter do the very same thing). In short, I don't see anything terribly wrong with colby's statements, and even if I did, I don't think it would necessarily mean much of anything. This post screams of a fellow SCUM trying to protect a newbie scum...
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Post by Meeko on Jul 17, 2011 7:40:51 GMT -5
Vote Count
Suburban Plankton (1) : JBGinger
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Post by LightFoot on Jul 17, 2011 11:43:01 GMT -5
JBG I was coming here to point that very post (the-sorry gotta vote you-post). NOW would be a very good time for Archangel to reveal what it was that she would not post as it cannot not be anti-Town now. Yes, I know I said I saw something and I have my explanation time stamped and ready to post AFTER Archangel shares hers.
On a sad note. If Scum claims Town lemming and a true Town Lemming has the same genus It will do nothing for them to counterclaim. The way I see it it will only out another vanilla and lessen the pool for Scum to find ‘power’ roles.
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Post by moodymitchy on Jul 17, 2011 12:11:41 GMT -5
Vote ArchangelStill not happy at all with her "non" explanation yesterDay..... she voted (possibly bussed) colby11 early enough in the Day for it to not look like it was "bussing" ... and at that point suburban plankton could have easily ended up dying but he didn't. Now yesterDay people were hinting that Archangel herself could have been hinting that she was some sort of power... why then is she NOT dead We KNOW the powers in this game... 1 Cop , 1 Doc , 1 Vig and 2 Masons.. So with fubbleskag having claimed Cop that would leave Doc... Vig... and Masons.. It's TOWNS priority to keep the Cop alive as long as possible so regardless of what danger the Doc might have felt they were under, I feel they would have protected the Cop nonetheless.. SCUM would want a possible power dead.... pretty sure they wouldn't mind which one... but no they shoot Texcat instead.. What for? Purely for having voted colby11 2 Days in a row ? Somehow I don't think so.
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Post by gnarlycharlie on Jul 17, 2011 12:26:14 GMT -5
JBG I was coming here to point that very post (the-sorry gotta vote you-post). NOW would be a very good time for Archangel to reveal what it was that she would not post as it cannot not be anti-Town now. Yes, I know I said I saw something and I have my explanation time stamped and ready to post AFTER Archangel shares hers. On a sad note. If Scum claims Town lemming and a true Town Lemming has the same genus It will do nothing for them to counterclaim. The way I see it it will only out another vanilla and lessen the pool for Scum to find ‘power’ roles. it seems players without powers are all lemmings. so, can we all not claim anymore, at least for now?
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Post by Deni on Jul 17, 2011 12:57:33 GMT -5
Hey all...
Life is finally slowing down. I will be reading through Day 2 to catch up and I will be more active from now on.
Just wanted you to know I was here finally.
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Post by guiri on Jul 17, 2011 14:40:41 GMT -5
Scum must have been laughing their heads off with all the talk about Lemmings when they had one in their midst. So I wonder if all the scum are Lemmings? If they're all vanilla, I'd guess they're all lemmings. That makes Colby's comment all the more strange. @ Meeko, could scum talk during Night 0?@ Special Ed, why did you vote for Colby? I understand you preferred to see him lynched but I don't see where you gave reasons why you suspected him.
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Post by guiri on Jul 17, 2011 14:43:07 GMT -5
I mentioned SP flip flop and not colby's simply because Colby's had already been questioned on it and it was brought up by Gnarly, meanwhile no one was mentioned SP's flip flop simply because SP gave reasons for it. I was suspicious of the timing on when SP did his switch. OK but you didn't answer my questions yesterDay. I asked why you just commented on Suburban's posts without asking any questions and avoided commenting on his replies which, if anything, should have made you even more suspicious as he kept changing his story. The reason I voted Colby over SP was for the post about him voting for SP and stating that he didn't want to do it but he had to in order to save him. That's not what you said when you voted: I have read the case on Colby and because of that, <Snipped Vote> I don't like the fact that you gave no reasoning with your change of suspicion on Trepa. You only gave your reasons after you were called out. FWIW I'm also suspicious of Suburban but your flip to Colby really looks like a late bus.
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Post by special on Jul 17, 2011 14:53:46 GMT -5
@ Special Ed, why did you vote for Colby? I understand you preferred to see him lynched but I don't see where you gave reasons why you suspected him. I jsut bought into the case on colby more than anything else. I'm very disappointed that Captain Pinkies wasn't killed last Night. (I'm obviously not the Vigilante, eh?) I'm going to Outrun: ArchangelHere interactions with colby lead me to believe she is Scum. On Day 1, she appeared to be distancing herself. On Day 2, her suspicions magically disappeared without a real explanation. As I stated, if colby flipped Scum, Archangel is also likely Scum.
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Post by guiri on Jul 17, 2011 15:16:18 GMT -5
<snipped vote>Still not happy at all with her "non" explanation yesterDay..... she voted (possibly bussed) colby11 early enough in the Day for it to not look like it was "bussing" ... and at that point suburban plankton could have easily ended up dying but he didn't. Early in the Day? She voted 12 hours before Dusk and made it a tie with Suburban. Now yesterDay people were hinting that Archangel herself could have been hinting that she was some sort of power... why then is she NOT dead Why are you not dead? We KNOW the powers in this game... 1 Cop , 1 Doc , 1 Vig and 2 Masons.. So with fubbleskag having claimed Cop that would leave Doc... Vig... and Masons.. It's TOWNS priority to keep the Cop alive as long as possible so regardless of what danger the Doc might have felt they were under, I feel they would have protected the Cop nonetheless.. SCUM would want a possible power dead.... pretty sure they wouldn't mind which one... but no they shoot Texcat instead.. What for? Purely for having voted colby11 2 Days in a row ? Somehow I don't think so. I'm not sure what you're saying here. Why do you think Texcat was killed?
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Post by guiri on Jul 17, 2011 15:35:55 GMT -5
I jsut bought into the case on colby more than anything else. Which part of the case convinced you to vote 192 posts into Day2? - SisterCoyote's "not happy with Colby still"? - Colby's "different animals" comment? - Colby's response to Archangel's question on whether he'd been scum previously? - Colby's self-defense vote which hadn't formed part of anyone's case yet? - Or his flip-flop on Trepa, which wasn't enough for a Day 1 vote? Colby did flip-flop, but changing your mind isn't a Scum tell. What are your thoughts on MoodyMitchy, JustBeingGinger and Deni?
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Post by guiri on Jul 17, 2011 15:41:12 GMT -5
I did not understand your explanation shortly before Dusk. This was the bit I didn't understand: I choose Colby because I think if he was TOWN, he would of stated it more than just a post on Day 1. /snipped What did you mean?
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Post by moodymitchy on Jul 17, 2011 15:45:32 GMT -5
@ guiri
I think I'm still alive because SCUM feel that enough people have their suspicions of me and hope that someone like yourself will try to build a plausable case on me that other would agree with..
So why kill someone who they think will likely get lynched anyway?
No thoughts on why Texcat was killed. Can't recall much input from them during the game. Perhaps SCUM are content for now to kill off the quite ones and let the vocal ones squabble amongst each other..
Suburban Plankton was one person that said they thought Archangel was alluding with their back tracking that they might have some sort of power... Now if I were SCUM .. I would have taken a shot at someone who some people thought might have a power... rather than a quiet participant.
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Post by guiri on Jul 17, 2011 16:06:15 GMT -5
@ guiriI think I'm still alive because SCUM feel that enough people have their suspicions of me and hope that someone like yourself will try to build a plausable case on me that other would agree with.. If you were a power role, they'd have no hope in getting you lynched short of a convincing counter-claim which would net us a scum the following Day. So why kill someone who they think will likely get lynched anyway? Archangel has two votes already, doesn't this somewhat invalidate your argument?
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Jul 17, 2011 16:06:32 GMT -5
I did not understand your explanation shortly before Dusk. This was the bit I didn't understand: I choose Colby because I think if he was TOWN, he would of stated it more than just a post on Day 1. /snipped What did you mean? In all of Colby's posts that I can recall now, he only mentioned "I am Town" on the very first day. Typically if we are about to lynch a townie, they will say I am town or you guys will see or something along those lines. I didn't see anything except on the first day he mentioned it. That is all.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Jul 17, 2011 16:22:19 GMT -5
I mentioned SP flip flop and not colby's simply because Colby's had already been questioned on it and it was brought up by Gnarly, meanwhile no one was mentioned SP's flip flop simply because SP gave reasons for it. I was suspicious of the timing on when SP did his switch. OK but you didn't answer my questions yesterDay. I asked why you just commented on Suburban's posts without asking any questions and avoided commenting on his replies which, if anything, should have made you even more suspicious as he kept changing his story. That's not what you said when you voted: I have read the case on Colby and because of that, <Snipped Vote> I don't like the fact that you gave no reasoning with your change of suspicion on Trepa. You only gave your reasons after you were called out. FWIW I'm also suspicious of Suburban but your flip to Colby really looks like a late bus. I explained that I had not had a lot of time to really read the case on Colby word for word and post for post. I re-read Day 1 late in Day 2. I was not avoiding SP I was the one that was asking him questions. His response of what are you trying to say here (or something along those lines) was more of why should I state the obvious to him. I am questioning about his flip flop and I did not state that I was suspicious of him because in my mind the fact that I was questioning him should of said that I was some what suspicious of him at that point. If you read my post where I voted, I brought up the post about Colby voting for SP and the text in his vote. To me that was the tie breaker between Colby and SP, I did not think I needed to add that part in when I was voting for Colby. It was not a late bus on him. I have had a lot going on since Wed. I was told that I may not have a job in 2 months and that I am having surgery or 2 surgeries in the near future. My mind was not in the game.
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Post by moodymitchy on Jul 17, 2011 16:36:10 GMT -5
@ guiriI think I'm still alive because SCUM feel that enough people have their suspicions of me and hope that someone like yourself will try to build a plausable case on me that other would agree with.. If you were a power role, they'd have no hope in getting you lynched short of a convincing counter-claim which would net us a scum the following Day.So why kill someone who they think will likely get lynched anyway? Archangel has two votes already, doesn't this somewhat invalidate your argument? Bolding and resizing mine..... When have I mentioned anything about me being a power? My response stated that I believed I was still alive because I am garnering suspicion from quite a few people. Yourself being one and Sister Coyote is another one I feel is after me... It might be because you too are TOWN and know no different. In response to your second point... Perhaps she's got 2 votes because she is actually SCUM... Why are you so convinced that she isn't SCUM ?? If you believe I am then stick a vote down...
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Post by guiri on Jul 17, 2011 16:37:58 GMT -5
It was not a late bus on him. I have had a lot going on since Wed. I was told that I may not have a job in 2 months and that I am having surgery or 2 surgeries in the near future. My mind was not in the game. I'm sorry to hear this and hope all works out well.
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Post by special on Jul 17, 2011 16:38:08 GMT -5
I jsut bought into the case on colby more than anything else. Which part of the case convinced you to vote 192 posts into Day2? - SisterCoyote's "not happy with Colby still"? - Colby's "different animals" comment? - Colby's response to Archangel's question on whether he'd been scum previously? - Colby's self-defense vote which hadn't formed part of anyone's case yet? - Or his flip-flop on Trepa, which wasn't enough for a Day 1 vote? Colby did flip-flop, but changing your mind isn't a Scum tell. What are your thoughts on MoodyMitchy, JustBeingGinger and Deni? meh, it was really more of a hunch thing, I suppose. I didn't like his responses to your questions. I was exceptionally suspicious of the Archangel-colby interaction and felt a lynch of colby would give us information on Archangel. I also made a list (can't find it now) of people who suggested that the Cop reveal their results. He was on it, as I recall. I haven't paid enough attnetion to the game to have opions on as many people. Moody's post earlier pinged me a little. Again the colby/Archangel interactions have me leaning ever so slightly towards Town for Suburban. Ginger's vote toDay seems quite weak and could be an attempt to create an early wagon to divert from Archangel.
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Post by special on Jul 17, 2011 16:41:51 GMT -5
This was the bit I didn't understand: /snipped What did you mean? In all of Colby's posts that I can recall now, he only mentioned "I am Town" on the very first day. Typically if we are about to lynch a townie, they will say I am town or you guys will see or something along those lines. I didn't see anything except on the first day he mentioned it. That is all. bah! What good is saying "I am Town"? It's meaningless.
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Post by guiri on Jul 17, 2011 16:55:11 GMT -5
Bolding and resizing mine..... When have I mentioned anything about me being a power? As I've previously mentioned, your and Colby's D1 reaction to SilverJan's comments about scum being the same animal led me to suspect you were both non-vanilla, not town power roles but scum. If you were not scum, scum could make the same deduction about you and presume you were a power role. My response stated that I believed I was still alive because I am garnering suspicion from quite a few people. Yourself being one and Sister Coyote is another one I feel is after me... It might be because you too are TOWN and know no different. In response to your second point... Perhaps she's got 2 votes because she is actually SCUM... But there was suspicion on her at the end of D2, is it possible scum left her alive hoping she'd be lynched, as per your argument for your own survival? Why are you so convinced that she isn't SCUM ?? Oh, trust me, I'm not convinced of anything about Archangel and Colby's flip does not put her in a good light but I'm questioning your argument that she's a likely power role, survived the Night, and therefore must be scum. If you believe I am then stick a vote down... I was hoping to hear from Suburban, Archangel and a few others before voting but I still suspect you are scum so: Outrun MoodyMitchy
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Post by moodymitchy on Jul 17, 2011 17:04:09 GMT -5
I've not stated anywhere that she might be a power role... I believe her to be SCUM... hence my vote... I feel you use the term "power" too loosely... I take the term to mean either Cop.. Vig... Doc.. or Mason. SCUM as a group have one power available to them. But as single people they do not have separate skills. Oh and if SCUM deduce that I might be a power role... then why not kill me... oh yeah that's right because I'm SCUM... sorry I was forgetting how simple this game was
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Post by moodymitchy on Jul 17, 2011 17:07:55 GMT -5
Bolding and resizing mine..... When have I mentioned anything about me being a power? As I've previously mentioned, your and Colby's D1 reaction to SilverJan's comments about scum being the same animal led me to suspect you were both non-vanilla, not town power roles but scum. If you were not scum, scum could make the same deduction about you and presume you were a power role. But there was suspicion on her at the end of D2, is it possible scum left her alive hoping she'd be lynched, as per your argument for your own survival? Oh, trust me, I'm not convinced of anything about Archangel and Colby's flip does not put her in a good light but I'm questioning your argument that she's a likely power role, survived the Night, and therefore must be scum. If you believe I am then stick a vote down... I was hoping to hear from Suburban, Archangel and a few others before voting but I still suspect you are scum so: Outrun MoodyMitchyand please ... if you are so good at checking everything.... could you at least try to spot there are NO capitals in my username... Thanks for your cooperation
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Jul 17, 2011 17:21:09 GMT -5
In all of Colby's posts that I can recall now, he only mentioned "I am Town" on the very first day. Typically if we are about to lynch a townie, they will say I am town or you guys will see or something along those lines. I didn't see anything except on the first day he mentioned it. That is all. bah! What good is saying "I am Town"? It's meaningless. It is not saying by any means that a person is really town. I have seen Colby play town many times but never seen him play SCUM. It was more of a behavior that I was looking for to being the lynch leader.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Jul 17, 2011 17:25:02 GMT -5
It was not a late bus on him. I have had a lot going on since Wed. I was told that Ithe may not have a job in 2 months and that I am having surgery or 2 surgeries in the near future. My mind was not in the game. I'm sorry to hear this and hope all works out well. Thanks, surgeries will hopefully make my life better! Losing the job won't but I am hoping that does not happen. This is what I get for getting a government job...
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