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Post by peekercpa on Oct 16, 2012 8:04:20 GMT -5
well i got killed in my room. i'll nibble a bit because you folks deserve it. i am, i would imagine, not recruitable. to make me such would break the game. i really can't do shit except die and come back to annoy the rest of you fine folks at kind of random and intermittent points. i swear the role was written for me. polloux is a son of a gun but i think he hit close to home in this assignment. Peeker, what's your favorite song for your childhood? inna gadda da vida by iron butterfly. i thought it was cool that one song took up the whole side of an lp.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 16, 2012 8:07:51 GMT -5
Peeker, how do you win if you keep coming back to life? <snipped> by coming back to life, of course.
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Post by patricia on Oct 16, 2012 8:09:09 GMT -5
wow, lots of stuff going on today -
need to reread but for now
UNVOTE all
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 16, 2012 8:18:16 GMT -5
and just so i have a full slate.
vote jan
and someone mentioned that i really don't have a dog in this hunt since my wincon is totally separate from the norm. but i do like using this type of role, especially after a long lay off to see if the old scum sniffing abilities are able to be reawakened. and generally as non aligned third parties go, when i am one i will typically act in a more townie oriented direction.
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Post by Sister Coyote on Oct 16, 2012 8:45:31 GMT -5
Unvote: Meeko
Vote: silverjan
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 16, 2012 9:00:11 GMT -5
I just haven't believed you all game and I think I've voted for you every day so far. So I'm going to keep it there until we learn a little more about Jan. I think both of you may have been killing in Peekers room N1. What?! A vig killing the people they visit? Tell me more, Sherlock! Nah, Cookies, I don't know where the scum kill went Today but your breakdown of the kills is what I've come up with so far.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 16, 2012 9:15:20 GMT -5
<snip> Yes, I'm the vig and I have the freeze ray, the canterbury knives and jokerangs. <snip> If you claim your targets to have been Red Skeezix(redirected to peekercpa), Scathach, and Parzival then it is clear that you wield the freeze ray. But canterbury knives? Jokerangs? How do you know you have these? What do they do? Am I yet again missing humor?
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 16, 2012 9:25:58 GMT -5
How do I know I have them? I guessed. Totally made it up. I definitely don't have a PM or anything that tells me how my role works. They all make people dead, the only difference is what it says in the color. I've been using the freeze ray only because I wanted to leave a consistent mark but I can vary it if people are tired of freezing and smashing.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 16, 2012 9:35:00 GMT -5
I have felt strongly that the color indicates three kills on peekercpa Night One
Meeko identifies three visitors to peekercpa Night One.
All three admit to visiting on Night One.
Only Inner Stickler admits to being a killer.
It does seem that dizzymrslizzy and Silver Jan are lying.
Vote: dizzymrslizzy
Vote: silverjan
I do feel that Meeko is not being completely forthcoming so I wonder what else he is aware of that he is not telling. But it is hard to argue with the fact that he identified three visitors and all three have 'fessed up to, at least, the visiting.
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Post by Meeko on Oct 16, 2012 9:36:46 GMT -5
I'm going to outright second what COOKIES said. You guys are skimming everything. I made my case on my dizzy vote, and I recently posted it again verbatim. You didn't really make enough of a case. Basically, you failed to show your work. It's reasonable to say "Some number of players visited the dead man that Night. I've looked at them all and only one has said things I find suspicious." You didn't. You gave every impression that you had not even thought about whether any of the other players could have killed peeker. The talk of the Nexus reminded me of the last Halloween game, where Storyteller had the ability to make another player a Nexus for a particular kind of ability - kills, protections, investigations and roleblocks (I'm not sure about that last but there were four.) The game was modded by four of us, including Pollux himself and Mr. Blockey, Pollux's design consultant for this game. It's certainly worthy of a space in a hall of fame game. That would suggest that any or all of the people visiting peeker were killers. One of them has to have planted the lure, which would give us 1 to 3 killers. I'm inclined to accept Meeko's list as Silver Jan didn't deny visiting peeker. Failed to show my work?! What is this then?!
I was going to draw this out, and I was going to support what I am about to say with a post. Going back to re-read the post I am using to support my assertion, I found another post directly under it. Re-reading the second post there has quickened me to move my gambit along. TOWN ( At large, because as a matter of fact, I do believe there are only a few number of non-third party townies alive.) I am a Watcher. I happen to be Third Party. I split the lines here, lest you think I can only watch third parties. I have been watching what I considered to be high value targets. Some of these are obvious. As for night 1, I watched Peeker. A few people targeted Peeker on Night 1, and one of them was Dizzy. At first I was not certain what to make of this post : www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=poll&thread=2047&page=4#98523In which Dizzy states she was offline for Jewish Holidays. There are many levels here. On the surface, we can take her at her word, that she was inactive. This is completely against the result of my night one watching. One interpretation here is to say that Dizzy is mis-directing. I believe she is lying. On the deeper level, I think it is a matter of "The guilty dog barks." That is to say, I think Dizzy found it necessary to "over-clean" the crime scene. I don't know Peeker, but I think his place is like mine, and he has a few empty soda cans around the place. Dizzy here is trying to whistle nonchalantly while cleaning up the place, discarding the cans. I believe that Dizzy NK'd peeker on night 1. I believe everything that came after that, on Early Day 2 is an attempt in misdirection. My result watching of Peeker states that Dizzy was at least targeting Peeker on night 1.
But then, I saw the second post: www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=poll&thread=2047&page=4#98524This being the post that comes after my supporting post above. This post has the quickening agent. ::: How does Peeker's death have anything to do with a nexus ability (if I'm understanding it correctly)? Wouldn't he have been able to redirect the kill then? Read more: www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=poll&thread=2047&page=4#98524#ixzz29IFHx7QWThis seems to be the final turn in a police procedural, the one question too far, that only the murder can ask. No one is going to ask this quesstion, unless they are intimately involved in the crime. It's not a commonplace question, because common people aren't going to ask it. Again, another case of guilty dog barking. Nobody else thought to ask the question here. Nobody else did the deed. That's all I'm saying. My vote on Dizzy stands.
I'm not sure how "show your work" frankly works, if the showing player is not scum.
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Post by Meeko on Oct 16, 2012 9:38:36 GMT -5
I have felt strongly that the color indicates three kills on peekercpa Night One Meeko identifies three visitors to peekercpa Night One. All three admit to visiting on Night One. Only Inner Stickler admits to being a killer. It does seem that dizzymrslizzy and Silver Jan are lying. Vote: dizzymrslizzy [/color] Vote: silverjan [/color] I do feel that Meeko is not being completely forthcoming so I wonder what else he is aware of that he is not telling. But it is hard to argue with the fact that he identified three visitors and all three have 'fessed up to, at least, the visiting.[/quote] What else are you fishing for do you need?
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Post by sinjin on Oct 16, 2012 9:49:47 GMT -5
unvote cookies
vote silver jan none of her explanations make sense and she hasn't been "flakey" all game.
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Post by JustBeingGinger on Oct 16, 2012 9:58:34 GMT -5
Just catching up now...
Vote SilverJan Vote Dizzy
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 16, 2012 10:21:46 GMT -5
Dizzy lied, she dies. End of story for me Where did she lie, as far as we know at this point? I believe MHaye asked this question as well.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 16, 2012 10:23:33 GMT -5
and just so i have a full slate. vote janYour plate is overfull, because you already voted for both dizzy and pizza in Post 271.
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Post by Meeko on Oct 16, 2012 10:29:42 GMT -5
Peeker, what's your favorite song for your childhood? inna gadda da vida by iron butterfly. i thought it was cool that one song took up the whole side of an lp. I was thinking it was pop goes the weasel.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 16, 2012 10:30:19 GMT -5
I have felt strongly that the color indicates three kills on peekercpa Night One Meeko identifies three visitors to peekercpa Night One. All three admit to visiting on Night One. Only Inner Stickler admits to being a killer. It does seem that dizzymrslizzy and Silver Jan are lying. Vote: dizzymrslizzy [/color] Vote: silverjan [/color] I do feel that Meeko is not being completely forthcoming so I wonder what else he is aware of that he is not telling. But it is hard to argue with the fact that he identified three visitors and all three have 'fessed up to, at least, the visiting.[/quote] What else are you fishing for do you need?[/quote] I asked you four questions here: www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=poll&thread=2052&page=6#100040and I do not believe that the last three have been answered. You have not answered this question: www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=poll&thread=2052&page=10#100174Or this one: www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=poll&thread=2052&page=11#100181And that's just the questions I have asked. I do not have the time to look through the Day to see what questions by others have gone unanswered. From the beginning you went about this in a very unforthcoming manner. First you vote dizzymrslizzy with no reason given: Vote PizzaI would like to answer "why" but apparently we no longer answer questions in this game. Vote DizzyMrsLizzyHey this is fun! bleached And note the irony of "apparently we no longer answer questions in this game." Then when she responds with what amounts to an OMGUS vote, you respond with: Board ate my first post. Let's try that again : Dizzy You know why I am voting for you. Finally there is this long post: www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=poll&thread=2052&page=6#100030Which begins with: "I was going to draw this out" What? Further?!?! And then proceeds to make a poor case against dizzymrslizzy. It is not like someone has to be online and checked in throughout the Night, do they? All that is required is that a PM is sent to the Mod, yes? Pretty much any time over that 48 hours? Her question about the Nexus came after several others had brought the Nexus up, so I do not see that as any kind of a tell. And you've made it the dramatic climax of a murder mystery movie. Maybe all the effort you've put into turning "claiming early" into a open and shut case for a lynching has handicapped your ability to make another kind of case. Here you admit that you "have no evidence in and of itself that directly states X is a killer." www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=poll&thread=2052&page=7#100072But you continue to stand on your case against dizzymrslizzy without mentioning that you know more about that Night than you have let on. Then we finally get a "full" reveal 52 hours, some dozen of your posts and how many queries from others? later: www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=poll&thread=2052&page=10#100172So yes, I feel that you have not been forthcoming and that there are still unanswered questions. And I wonder. I am not voting you. I am not suspecting you of being anything other than what you claim. But I have noted that you went about this if a very convoluted manner and I wonder if there is meaning in that.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 16, 2012 10:34:49 GMT -5
So we have three people who were seen at peeker's place on the Night he was killed in oh-so-many nasty ways. dizzymrslizzy, who has claimed "Tracker" What do you want me to say suburban? I've done nothing wrong here except do the same thing that pizza has done...aka holding all of his cards close to his body. I am a tracker. I tracked Peekers night one because his deadpool/ironman Sctick sounded batshit crazy an I wanted to see where he went. I tracked Pizza night two who I got a result again that he didn't leave And I tracked Parz after pizzas whole parz is a scumbag show on N3 I have no real information to share at all...if I had I would have shared. Silver Jan, who has claimed "Recruiter" Because I'm an idiot I was doing multiple quotes and I'm not too good at that. I visited gnarly with the intention of trying to recruit him but was sent to peeks instead. Inner Stickler, who has claimed "Vigilante" Dammit Meeko. Thanks for the neutering. I had no intention of killing Peeker, although it may have been just as well since I went after Red the first night. Yes, I'm the vig and I have the freeze ray, the canterbury knives and jokerangs. Vote: Silver Jan I notice that none of them has bothered to claim any Alignment. Also, I had penciled Inner Down as Third-Party after this post I don't have anything in my PM that says I'm recruitable or not but I'd be very surprised if I was. I'll admit it's a 'soft claim' at best, but if he's Town I can't figure out why he'd show any uncertainty at all as to whether or not he could be recruited. I'm going to look back at the manner of deaths to see if anything makes more sense than anything else at this point.
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Post by Meeko on Oct 16, 2012 10:35:08 GMT -5
Can someone please explain fishing to rich? Kthxbye.
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Post by Meeko on Oct 16, 2012 10:37:37 GMT -5
Dammit Meeko. Thanks for the neutering. I had no intention of killing Peeker, although it may have been just as well since I went after Red the first night. Yes, I'm the vig and I have the freeze ray, the canterbury knives and jokerangs. Hey man, I'm not sure how else I could play it. I'm the bait here, not the fisherman. I was obviously fine leaving it as it was, just voting for dizzy.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 16, 2012 10:45:08 GMT -5
I'll admit it's a 'soft claim' at best, but if he's Town I can't figure out why he'd show any uncertainty at all as to whether or not he could be recruited. You have an odd definition of uncertainty.
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Post by Inner Stickler on Oct 16, 2012 10:48:17 GMT -5
Vigilante is a town role. If I were PFK, I'd be a serial killer and I've never heard of a Third Party killing role.
Name: The Joker Alignment: Town Designation: Hostile Role: Vigilante
Does that make you feel better? That certainly couldn't have been mocked up by scum. My claim is so much stronger now than it was 5 minutes ago.
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Post by Meeko on Oct 16, 2012 10:48:57 GMT -5
How do I know I have them? I guessed. Totally made it up. I definitely don't have a PM or anything that tells me how my role works. They all make people dead, the only difference is what it says in the color. I've been using the freeze ray only because I wanted to leave a consistent mark but I can vary it if people are tired of freezing and smashing. It's the inner stickler o magic 9000, it freezes. It batterangs. It slices and dices. Or at least that's what the Infomercial said......
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Post by Silver Jan on Oct 16, 2012 10:51:13 GMT -5
Did everyone forget that Colby said there could be a back up recruiter. I'm not as powerful as Colby though.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 16, 2012 10:51:51 GMT -5
and just so i have a full slate. vote janYour plate is overfull, because you already voted for both dizzy and pizza in Post 271. carp, you are correct unvote all[/color] vote dizzy
vote jan
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Post by LightFoot on Oct 16, 2012 10:56:01 GMT -5
Did everyone forget that Colby said there could be a back up recruiter. I'm not as powerful as Colby though. Doesn't a back up usually come to power when the origional is killed? Vote: silverjan
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 16, 2012 11:00:44 GMT -5
Vigilante is a town role. If I were PFK, I'd be a serial killer and I've never heard of a Third Party killing role. Name: The JokerAlignment: Town Designation: Hostile Role: Vigilante Does that make you feel better? That certainly couldn't have been mocked up by scum. My claim is so much stronger now than it was 5 minutes ago. Yes, I feel much better now. Thanks.
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Post by Rich Beckman on Oct 16, 2012 11:00:49 GMT -5
Can someone please explain fishing to rich? Kthxbye. Fine, some of that is explained by "fishing". But I do not see the fishing after the long post where you claimed to have seen dizzymrslizzy visiting peekercpa, but ignored the fact that you saw two others also. And you continue to ignore the unanswered questions. So, still not forthcoming.
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Post by Suburban Plankton on Oct 16, 2012 11:07:12 GMT -5
Did everyone forget that Colby said there could be a back up recruiter. I'm not as powerful as Colby though. Doesn't a back up usually come to power when the origional is killed? Yes, that's generally the case. And last I checked, Colby was still alive and well. Jan, you should have claimed to be a second recruiter, or a 'weak' recruiter (whatever that would be), but a backup when the original is still active just doesn't add up. unvote Cookies vote Silver Jan
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Post by Colby11 on Oct 16, 2012 11:11:25 GMT -5
Jan is a backup? Doesnt make sense, usually if you are a backup, you don't know about it... Or have a backup role like someone had
Unvote Lightfoot
Vote Silver Jan
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