Day Seven

[sinjin]

So Cat did you read my post answering your hypothetical question? Or Parzival's description of his odd encounter?

[CatInASuit]

sinjin said:

So Cat did you read my post answering your hypothetical question? Or Parzival's description of his odd encounter?

Yes, I did.

Given this and some extra pondering / reading, my vote still stands.

[sinjin]

Well, I guess that's it for me then. I had one last futile hope that Cat really wanted to reconcile his PM and my role. I hope the game isn't over for the colony but I fear it is. If we do last thru my mis-lynch due to a miscalculation on the part of the spectulators I urge the colony to look at who voted for me and why.

My primary list of scum contenders includes Roosh #1, but that will be obvious when he is alive Night 7, Parzival and CatinaSuit. I don't know which are replicants and which are speculators. I think Captain Klutz is just a mistaken colonist.

Story, can you prod the players who have not been active so they can voice their opinion before my demise. I would hate to be taken out by 2 speculators, 2 scum and one misguided colonist.

sinjin, The Scientist, Pro-Colony Investigator

[RoOsh]

sinjin said:

My primary list of scum contenders includes Roosh #1, but that will be obvious when he is alive Night 7

Really?
Really? You really think after all this I'm gonna be alive Night 7? That's up there with the Scum Mason theory.... And if I'm alive Night 7, i'll just be insta-lynched Day 8, hell I'd even cast the first vote If i'm still able to and not some zombie freak thing....

I don't wanna die, but at least knowing that you'll be proven wrong about me will be satisfaction enough. And 2 scum, 2 speculators and 1 townie all going after you? Wow... that's a huge conspiracy theory all to get rid of a person who can't really do anything with her powers.... except "confirm herself in her own eyes."
I'll be gloating with my nachos when this Day is done and you're outta here, you liar.

[CatInASuit]

sinjin said:

Well, I guess that's it for me then. I had one last futile hope that Cat really wanted to reconcile his PM and my role. I hope the game isn't over for the colony but I fear it is. If we do last thru my mis-lynch due to a miscalculation on the part of the spectulators I urge the colony to look at who voted for me and why.

My primary list of scum contenders includes Roosh #1, but that will be obvious when he is alive Night 7, Parzival and CatinaSuit. I don't know which are replicants and which are speculators. I think Captain Klutz is just a mistaken colonist.

Story, can you prod the players who have not been active so they can voice their opinion before my demise. I would hate to be taken out by 2 speculators, 2 scum and one misguided colonist.

sinjin, The Scientist, Pro-Colony Investigator

If it makes you feel any better, you have been hard done by.

I re-read Roosh's roleclaim. My guess is that the device was placed there by the Speculators at the start of the game and that if he failed to remove it he would be given a random Speculator name in compensation.

It just happened to be you this time round instead of kassia or A.N. Other

[sinjin]

roosh said:

Really?
Really? You really think after all this I'm gonna be alive Night 7? That's up there with the Scum Mason theory.... And if I'm alive Night 7, i'll just be insta-lynched Day 8, hell I'd even cast the first vote If i'm still able to and not some zombie freak thing....

I don't wanna die, but at least knowing that you'll be proven wrong about me will be satisfaction enough. And 2 scum, 2 speculators and 1 townie all going after you? Wow... that's a huge conspiracy theory all to get rid of a person who can't really do anything with her powers.... except "confirm herself in her own eyes."
I'll be gloating with my nachos when this Day is done and you're outta here, you liar.

I know you'll be alive tonight, becasue I know there is no bomb with "sinjin's handiwork" on it. Just like there was no little bow and arrow in Firefly.

I am important to the speculators not because of the power of my role. I am important because my role is the opposite of theirs. I am looking to identify humans, they are looking to identify and control replicants. Hence they know I am a colonist. The only other known colonist at this point is diggit the mason. And you know as well as I do there is no way anybody can get the colony to lynch a mason. Heh, no one will even consider the possiblity that there is a scum mason.

I am the only known colonist the speculators can lynch toDay, which I believe will give the speculators the game.

Why would replicants go after me toDay as well? They also know I'm a colonist and it's an easy lynch. In their arrogance they probably don't think it's end game for them too.

[storyteller0910]

DAY SEVEN VOTE COUNT, PAGE FIVE EDITION

sinjin (4) - Roosh, CatinaSuit v. 2.0, Parzival, Death by Irony
Roosh (1) - sinjin

Five votes have been cast of a possible nine. Five votes on the same person will trigger a vote freeze; if sinjin receives one more vote, voting will freeze and diggitcamara will have to decide whether to grant a stay of execution. Otherwise, the Day will end naturally on Tuesday at 5:00PM EST.

-----

I'll send a prodding PM to zuma presently.

[diggitcamara]

sinjin said:

Well, I guess that's it for me then. I had one last futile hope that Cat really wanted to reconcile his PM and my role. I hope the game isn't over for the colony but I fear it is. If we do last thru my mis-lynch due to a miscalculation on the part of the spectulators I urge the colony to look at who voted for me and why.

My primary list of scum contenders includes Roosh #1, but that will be obvious when he is alive Night 7, Parzival and CatinaSuit. I don't know which are replicants and which are speculators. I think Captain Klutz is just a mistaken colonist.

Story, can you prod the players who have not been active so they can voice their opinion before my demise. I would hate to be taken out by 2 speculators, 2 scum and one misguided colonist.

sinjin, The Scientist, Pro-Colony Investigator

Well, I assume (yes, I know what they say about that) that I've been cast in the role of the "misguided colonist".

But would you mind listing the other people in that list?

(And, while we are at it, could you please give me a reason why CatInASuit, despite its contradiction to the rules, could still be in a non-town faction?)

[sinjin]

diggitcamara said:

Well, I assume (yes, I know what they say about that) that I've been cast in the role of the "misguided colonist".

But would you mind listing the other people in that list?

(And, while we are at it, could you please give me a reason why CatInASuit, despite its contradiction to the rules, could still be in a non-town faction?)

Actually I don't have a list of misguided colonists. All I'm saying is that at this point that is all it will take to mislynch. Two scum, two speculators and one colonist.

There is no contradiction to the rules. What I'm suggesting is that Cat has been a speculator since the beginning. He wasn't recruited by the speculator's during the game.

This from atarus:

When I heard of the news that New Canaan was in trouble, I returned, and recognized some other people I grew up with that I am positive aren't Replicants.

Note he says he's positive the people he grew up with aren't replicants no mention that they're not speculator's. I assume your PM says something similar. We all know that people change over time in RL, why wouldn't they in the fictional world of Bladerunner Mafia.

I believe that story planted a speculator in your group from the beginning. Look at Cat's actions over the past two days.

YesterDay Roosh was near the top of his suspicious list. Today he's suddenly on his Semi-confirmed town list. Yesterday and early Today I was on his confirmed town list. Then suddenly with the release of his "PM information" Today I am instantly moved to the Confirmed Speculator column.

Also note that you and atarus were given information about replicants. For game symatry why wasn't Cat given information about drainbead's power?

Why did it take Cat so long to reveal his supposed knowledge about my power? Why didn't he reveal it when I claimed? He could have been night-killed on either of the two nights before he finally claimed and taken that tidbit of info with him. In what way is that pro-colony? Why will he not even consider the possibility that Parzival's visitor was the speculator.

Does it really make sense from a balanced game standpoint that two individuals would be given specific information to implicate me personally? And does it really make sense that both pieces of damning information would come out at the same time?

[sinjin]

Colonists story has been playing with our minds the whole game. We have a major power role who can't claim or he loses all his powers. I have a device that makes human's wee blue. We have a replicant that has an active/inative state. We have a virtually non-stopable assassin replicant. story keeps telling us that more interesting things are yet to be revealed.

Which is the more interesting creation: a mason who is also a speculator or a speculator third party group that is so hobbled by the planting of pre-game information that they can't possibly win?

[Parzival]

Sinjin - Assuming Roosh is telling the truth, I don't think it makes things impossible for the Speculators to win. Tough, yes, but not impossible. I'm also somewhat in doubt that it even says that, though.

A Mason belonging to two separate factions makes much less sense to me. (Not to metagame too much but I think it's similar to the rationale against recruitment - at the start the player

One last comment on my math post - I was only defending my numbers - not expecting you to necessarily have reached the same values. My way of explaining that I didn't pull the "50%" out of a hat. I completely believe you when you say you thought the chance of confirming someone was small. But I still think that you should have attempted it since it could have helped us.

It's also not my primary reason for voting for you. I'll retract my comment where I sort of implied that as it's unfair at this stage (and especially in this game) to vote just because you feel someone has misplayed their power. Your defense, though, about being "100% confirmed to yourself" isn't helping you. That much I do count against you.

Roosh, I think you've covered some of the options of what was probably my night visitor. It hadn't reread the PM in a while so it actually fits the scum roleblocker pretty well. Apparently drainbead had a knockout fetish. (She was still alive the Night it happened.)

It could still be a Speculator that did it too. I think that's less likely. I also think it unlikely that I'm a replicant and don't know it, since I don't see a good reason why replicants would be aware of being controlled. (The Commando [Episode of Blonde?] might have been able to know.) People are free to consider it how they want.

[Parzival]

Sorry folks, this time it's just my brain slipping:

Bolded comments ADDED to the quote from the post above by me.

parzival said:

Sinjin - Assuming Roosh is telling the truth, I don't think it makes things impossible for the Speculators to win. Tough, yes, but not impossible. I'm also somewhat in doubt that it even says that, though. [Referring to the label on the leg band.]

A Mason belonging to two separate factions makes much less sense to me. (Not to metagame too much but I think it's similar to the rationale against recruitment - at the start the player

would have little idea how to proceed since their win condition might be conflicting.)

[sinjin]

MAJOR SCUM SLIP AHEAD:

Roosh, I think you've covered some of the options of what was probably my night visitor. It hadn't reread the PM in a while so it actually fits the scum roleblocker pretty well. Apparently drainbead had a knockout fetish. (She was still alive the Night it happened.)

Italics mine

What PM did Roosh and Parzival have access to that included the information that drainbead had a knockout fetish?

The only thing story posted at her death was:

drainbead, a Rogue Replicant (Pleasure Model) role-blocker, has been lynched

[diggitcamara]

parzival said:

Sorry folks, this time it's just my brain slipping:

Bolded comments ADDED to the quote from the post above by me.

parzival said:

Sinjin - Assuming Roosh is telling the truth, I don't think it makes things impossible for the Speculators to win. Tough, yes, but not impossible. I'm also somewhat in doubt that it even says that, though. [Referring to the label on the leg band.]

A Mason belonging to two separate factions makes much less sense to me. (Not to metagame too much but I think it's similar to the rationale against recruitment - at the start the player

would have little idea how to proceed since their win condition might be conflicting.)

Not to mention that it would make the whole group bloody useless. Even toxic to the town. (as a group)

So you'll excuse me if I trust my fellow mason's actions a bit more than those of someone whose actions may or may not be in the town's benefit.

[Gir!]

sinjin said:

MAJOR SCUM SLIP AHEAD:

Roosh, I think you've covered some of the options of what was probably my night visitor. It hadn't reread the PM in a while so it actually fits the scum roleblocker pretty well. Apparently drainbead had a knockout fetish. (She was still alive the Night it happened.)

Italics mine

What PM did Roosh and Parzival have access to that included the information that drainbead had a knockout fetish?

The only thing story posted at her death was:

drainbead, a Rogue Replicant (Pleasure Model) role-blocker, has been lynched

Wow, way to majorly twist a comment's meaning to fit your own agenda.

Did you notice the word "apparently" there? Roosh theorized in reply #116 that Parzival's "peaceful sleep" effect sounded like it could be a roleblock by the pleasure replicant, color-wise.

roosh said:

Um... I had to go back on when she died.... But... Did you have sex with a pleasure Robot, sir? Did you use protection? WD-40?
Cuz that sounds like a role blocker type of power to me.
Either that, or you maybe a replicant and gotten controlled by a Speculator if you don't remember what you did that night.

The PM that Parzival is referring to is obviously the one in which he was told he blacked out for the night. Roosh quotes it in reply #116 and the original PM description is in reply #111. Parzival's comment about the "knockout fetish" looks to be a joke about the pleasure robot enjoying the night with a passed-out guy.

Would it be wrong of me to vote for sinjin and start the vote freeze?

[RoOsh]

Thanks Kat for clearing up what a knockout fetish was. As I had no idea what the hell Sinjin was trying to say there. I was simply pointing to the flavor. We have a role blocker. One that's a pleasure model. And we have a Dude who passed out and has no recollection of what happens but feels good....

Now... I know it's metagaming, but I've been in College. So I merely suggested the MOST REAL WORLD possibility of what could have transpired that night, heh. I didn't suggest it was facts or anything like that.
Again, I've been saying it since the start of this Day, Sinjin I think you're scum and you've just been majorly exposed at the start of this Day and since the start you've been grasping at straws like CRAZY.

The fact that one of your defenses is that "This can't possibly be true! It's just too unfair to scum! The game would be unbalanced!" is just terrible.
-One, Because I've already stated 2x before why I think its actually QUITE ingenious the way my role was designed to be balanced vs. Replicants and vs. Speculators (as I had no idea even of speculators from it, but figured my abilities were all vs. Replicants), and I do think that CaiS had a valid point that perhaps a random scum's (spec or repli) name could have been given to me. But it still points to YOU none the less, random or not.
-Two, the fact that the defense is pretty much "Look at the raw deal the scum is getting!" is basically the thought for it.... That's also hugely CRAPlogic. I'm Town, and I know what I got, but trying to convince me that the scum have it so hard if it works out this way? No way am I buying ANYTHING like that. The Town ALWAYS has it worse, because we don't know all the information, so in NO WAY am I going to feel sorry that the game seems unbalanced for scum groups, because just the very fact that there are 2 scum group out there hugely changes things. The only way one could SAY that the game is unbalanced is if they had access to information that their group gets AND the same information that a regular townie gets- that's the only way they could make such a statement on "fairness".

-So I'm not really going to listen to your cries much longer sinjin at this point. You're just trying to scatter as much flak as you can and smudge AS MANY people as you can by the end of this Day and at this point, Kat, I would forgive you for the vote freeze even if it means my death earlier, because i feel sinjin is just trying to create as much discord and distrust as she can before she bites the big one.

[sinjin]

Now... I know it's metagaming, but I've been in College. So I merely suggested the MOST REAL WORLD possibility of what could have transpired that night, heh.

And ya know what that's the most disgusting thing I've read here. I didn't mind being called a bitch or an asshole much, but that's it for me, sha me now. The town deserves to lose. We didn't stand a chance to win from the start.

I will be enjoying boat drinks with little umbrella's when Roosh survives the night and Parzival turns out to be his scum buddy.

vote sinjin

[Idle Thoughts]

Heh, you said sha.

[RoOsh]

sinjin said:

And ya know what that's the most disgusting thing I've read here. I didn't mind being called a bitch or an asshole much, but that's it for me, sha me now.

WHOA WHOA WHOA....
What did I call you though?
I didn't SAY ANYTHING about YOU.... Where did you get this all from??
As nothing that you've quoted there was really meant towards you.
Unless you just found that statement disgusting in general, then I understand that, but I didn't think i was talking about you in ANY way when I made those comments....


Can you explain that one to me Sinjin?

[RoOsh]

The above post I made is an out of game comment actually, as I really am confused and worried if you, sinjin, feel i've insulted you in REAL Life
(if this is not the case, and its just in game stuff, then ignore it, but if you're ACTUALLY upset in real life over something, just don't worry about it i guess).

But I don't think i've made ANY derogatory personal comments towards you.
The college line is in reference to parzival and his problems of blacking out.

[RoOsh]

Gah.
Typo to the above post

(if this is not the case, and its just in game stuff, then ignore it, just don't worry about it i guess,but if you're ACTUALLY upset in real life over something, Talk to Me about it).

[Captain Klutz]

I suppose sinjin's self vote counts, so the voting is frozen.

Diggit, are you around?

Zuma.v2, anything more you would like to say toDay?

CIAS2, I am curious as to why you kept that little tidbit to yourself for so long.

[Parzival]

Sinjin, I seriously apologize if anything I said as well offended you. I meant the 'knockout fetish' as a joke - it was as Roosh and Kat explained. I also feel bad since it sort of set Roosh in the direction of his college joke.

(I suppose you can take some comfort in the fact that if Roosh is telling the truth about the device on him, you're causing his death that much sooner.)

[sinjin]

[oog]Sorry about the over-reaction. I had no idea that "knock-out fetishes" were common on college campuses these days and actually I wish I didn't know now. I thought it was a reference to an in game fantasy associated with the fantasy that is pleasure bots. Color me clueless.[/oog]

Carry on. My vote stands.

[CatInASuit]

<oog>

sinjin, parzival, roosh: I hope this can be worked out

</oog>

Captain Klutz.
My reason for keeping this titbit were as follows.

I received this info on Day 3, when subbing in and matched it to sinjin when she claimed. However, I was not sure if hers was the only method or not with this functionality.

During Day 6, I mentioned the possiblities of the Speculator win conditions, which you prompted me about again in Night 6.

After atarus was Night Killed, I realised that I should roleclaim to prevent false Mason claims and to narrow the Suspect pool further.

Also given the deaths that had occureed that Night, I worked out the various options which could occur, given my thoughts on the roles and numbers and realised that the most likely win was going to be for the Speculators.

Given that no further 50% method had occured and no-one else had mentioned anything about it, this led me to draw my conclusions.

Yes, this has had to make me decide between sinjin and Roosh as to who to believe. The difference being that I am happier with sinjin being a Replicator then Roosh being scum.

And one of them has to be lynched tonight.

[CatInASuit]

Voting has been frozen for 6 hours from your vote sinjin, no-one can vote/unvote.

Unless diggitcamara give an extension of Day in that time, that's it.

[CatInASuit]

D'oh.

I missed this, but then so did some others.

sinjin - you never unvoted Roosh, so your vote for yourself does not count.

I guess the game will continue as normal, no need for diggitcamara and I guess Day is not ending any time soon.

[Captain Klutz]

Well, I don't see that we're doing much except marking time.

Would anyone mind if I cast the freeze/countdown vote for sinjin?

[diggitcamara]

catinasuit said:

Voting has been frozen for 6 hours from your vote sinjin, no-one can vote/unvote.

Unless diggitcamara give an extension of Day in that time, that's it.

I do.

(give an extension of Day to its normal conclusion, I mean)

[storyteller0910]

Officially speaking, sinjin's vote for herself did not count, as she did not unvote Roosh prior to casting it. We thus remain at 4 votes sinjin, one vote Roosh. An additional vote at any point will result in a voting freeze. At that time, diggit will decide whether or not to extend the Day by 18 hours.

At the moment, however, the Day will end at 5:00PM tomorrow afternoon.