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May 28, 2008 22:04:29 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on May 28, 2008 22:04:29 GMT -5
*snip* For actual game stuff. I'm not sure where I sit with Hal. I personally don't subscribe to the 'he is a possessed camp' - I'm sure Atarus wouldn't have allowed that big a loop hole. (Then again maybe Hal is not getting away with it and we won't find out the consequences of "breaking the rules" until Dusk? I completely agree that it would be an extraordinarly ballsy play for scum to take to draw this much attention to themselves this early. However I have a niggling doubt, that what if Hal is a Type 1 demon and he's hoping to get investigated (holy watered), and come up clean to earn townie cred? A Possibility. By the same token, it is also ballsy for a town power role to out themselves as a power role this early. If this is the case, and Hal isn't trying out some patented super secret new mafia strategy, then I presume he must be a Doctor of some description, in which case he has locked himself into self protecting for the forseeable future, at least until another power role is revealed at which time it becomes a game of chicken with scum. You missed something, but please, keep going - you want some more rope? FOS the smurfy one
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May 28, 2008 22:34:36 GMT -5
Post by Kison on May 28, 2008 22:34:36 GMT -5
First : Been hella busy. This game's moving very quickly, as well. Second : Discussing the setup is great and all, but I agree with whoever said we shouldn't bet all of our chips on one assumption(unless there's a very good reason that such an assumption has been made). oooo, cryptic! In any event, I don't know that we can draw any conclusions about the scum teams and whatnot at this point. For all we know, it's one scum team with two "types" of scum. The problem, again, lies with the fact that an exorcism apparently converts a demon into Town. Since that player was part of the informed minority, obvious problems arise. The more I think about it, though, the more the idea of "possessing a body" seems to be accurate. I'm just, again, having trouble trying to think of how such an implementation would be feasible. Guess we'll have to wait and see, if that's even the case. I like what Roost pointed out about the notebook and possible other scum types. Good think to keep an eye out for. Kat : good catch on the exorcism "being done correctly" line. Didn't catch that myself. The Hal thing : Obviously I'd expect a possessed player not to be able to, well, hint at it? That kind of defeats the purpose. Which makes me wonder why anyone who isn't possessed would want to do such a thing. The possessor trying to waste exorcism/holy water? Maybe. Not sure I entirely understand KidVermicious's vote on Tragic. Lack of contribution? Maybe I should have made this three separate posts. I'll try to read more thoroughly tomorrow. Having a tad bit of trouble keeping up.
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May 28, 2008 23:01:56 GMT -5
Post by Greedy Smurf on May 28, 2008 23:01:56 GMT -5
You missed something, but please, keep going - you want some more rope? FOS the smurfy oneCare to explain? I missed something I just love getting FOS'd with no explanation for it.
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May 28, 2008 23:15:45 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on May 28, 2008 23:15:45 GMT -5
Care to explain? I missed something I just love getting FOS'd with no explanation for it. It's a FOS, not a vote, but you're pinging me something fierce. And if you don't see whats wrong with that succession of smudges, then no, I don't want to explain. I want you to keep talking.
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May 28, 2008 23:22:52 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on May 28, 2008 23:22:52 GMT -5
Oh, I can tell already that this game is going to drive me up a wall and back down the other one, because it seems custom designed to push all of my buttons. Thanks a heap, atarus.
Specifically, I'll start with this. I know this won't be particularly popular, because everyone loves their secrets. And this isn't directed at Hal, per se, because I kind of get where he's going with what he's said so far, but: for the love of Mike, can we try, at least to some extent, to limit the number of "peek-a-boo-I-have-a-secret-that-I'll-tell-you-about-but-won't-tell-you" posts? I realize that in this particular case, Hal appears to have a specific reason for being evasive (more on that later), but in general, if you have a secret that's too sensitive to share, don't tell us that you have the secret at all.
Also in general: the unfamiliar setting and closed ruleset mean that we are operating at an even greater information deficit than in Batman or Firefly, where at least we could draw a few tentative, color-based conclusions early on. What that means is this: if you have a power, or useful information, of course be cautious with it. But I've seen a lot of power roles in recent games stubbornly hold their cards close to the vest on general principles even when sharing what they know with the Town would have been enormously beneficial; just be sure that if you're not telling, it's for a specific reason.
As for Hal himself, I dunno. It's a weird gambit if he's scum, of course. But until fairly recently, I'd have said that no third-party player would invent a role that involved checking names against a nonsensical list that he wasn't permitted to describe. Which is another way of saying - I'm not sure I'm going to put anything past Hal.
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May 28, 2008 23:26:24 GMT -5
Post by storyteller0910 on May 28, 2008 23:26:24 GMT -5
Care to explain? I missed something I just love getting FOS'd with no explanation for it. It's a FOS, not a vote, but you're pinging me something fierce. And if you don't see whats wrong with that succession of smudges, then no, I don't want to explain. I want you to keep talking. That's interesting. I'd like to hear your explanation, myself, if not immediately than at least at some point.
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May 28, 2008 23:28:14 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on May 28, 2008 23:28:14 GMT -5
A few things: Yes my lists will make you want to curl up into a ball and cry. This is mafia, mafia with power roles, which means any reasonable list will do that to you.
We assume that S2 demons just hop around on host death, so that lynching one flips a townie automatically. While possible I'm not sure that I find it likely. It just seems that that's an extremely overpowered scum mechanic, and while I know the dangers of trying to outguess the game mod, I also lived with him for a year, and he's smarter than that.
Also I read Darth's two posts and I don't see where he's dropping hints. If anything he's not following the theorizing that we've been sticking to as an assumption. The only thing he said that I'm guessing you've all glommed on to is asking Hal if they were on the same wavelength. Isn't that just as easily interpreted as him asking if what we were all assuming he was saying was what he was actually saying. That's how I took it, now I can see how you took it your way, but in my eyes that's a 50/50 until he says something.
So in my opinion that leaves us with just Hal claiming, and it just feels like he's lying.
The reason I lean towards lynching him is that of all the options presented only two have strong negative results on a lynch.
If he's a scum bomb that would be the worst case scenario, and unfortunately the most likely negative lynch scenario.
If type 2 demons shift bodies then we've compromised a second townie with the lynch. Once again though, I am highly doubtful of this mechanic.
All of the other options are either negated by lynching or if he's trying to play a dangerous town game, he can just role claim, since he's basically already compromised himself.
All that said, I see Hal as a "safety" lynch. In other words, lynching him is better than lynching someone random, however many and any options may well become apparent, and I'd be more than happy to switch to them, leaving Hal open to being night killed, the less reliable, but if carried through, slightly more advantageous option.
Also moar discussion!!!!!!
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May 28, 2008 23:47:00 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on May 28, 2008 23:47:00 GMT -5
Also I read Darth's two posts and I don't see where he's dropping hints. If anything he's not following the theorizing that we've been sticking to as an assumption. The only thing he said that I'm guessing you've all glommed on to is asking Hal if they were on the same wavelength. Isn't that just as easily interpreted as him asking if what we were all assuming he was saying was what he was actually saying. Fair enough, you're right about DS, I thought the Wavelengths thing meant they might have similar powers, as it happened quite early on in the posting history. But I guess it's best to hear from Darth on that matter: Darth- need a good shoehorning? Or: What did you mean by your wavelength comment? If he's a scum bomb that would be the worst case scenario, and unfortunately the most likely negative lynch scenario. If type 2 demons shift bodies then we've compromised a second townie with the lynch. Once again though, I am highly doubtful of this mechanic. Of these two options, I fear the former more than the latter. If he is a D2mon that transfers into another townie- we can have them hopefully speak up safely- and then though we lost a single townie, we can hope that the "shoehorning" might be more successful on the other townie. However, we have no idea on what happens if Hal Dies- So Hal: Can you tell us- can the smell of your stinky shoes make anyone else sick? Or can you not really say? Or do you have no idea? I agree with the early posters who said you need to talk a wee bit more if possible. We need to know what we're up against- and if you're a Scum Bomb, you'll obviously be lying to us- but still, talking would be helpful, as we can try to figure out what's going on with you. The Scum Bomb- it'd suck. But honestly, If I'm gonna hit it, i'd rather hit it sooner than later. Right now we've got the maximum amount of cover for power roles- nothings been outed, nothing crazy's been done yet in terms of role claims. So (Unlike in Batman) if a Scum Bomb has to pick a target, he's basically firing into the dark- he doesn't know who the doc or the cop or whoever is yet. And that's better than a later issue. However, I agree that Hal isn't probably our best play for toDay, we need more information, and it'd be helpful if Hal, you could provide us with anything even if its by way of long extended metaphors. If you've said to much- well then your jig is up, and you might as well go all the way, eh? Hal probably would not be my first lynch for toDay. I'd rather learn more about this first.
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May 28, 2008 23:53:11 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on May 28, 2008 23:53:11 GMT -5
And I think our dear mods post count is wrong, because thats the only thing I can find from Tragic yet. She's had 2 posts so far during Day 1. That one you mentioned, and she made one on May 27, 2008, 9:37am. psychopathgame.proboards106.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=tragic^ If you click on her name (or any player), you'll see all the Posts they've made. You can also click on the # on the outside of the thread topics, and you'll see the post counts of All the players for that specific Day. But you're right- far too few people ARE posting. However, the lowest posters (under 4) will be replaced. So to me the more suspicious lurkers the ones who will lurk, but "lurk enough" just to get over that minimum count. Ie: The ones who go through a whole week while posting in the single digits with minimal content. That's MORE suspicious to me, than someone who posts only 3 times in a week period. Btw: Stardragonman- you playing this game or what?
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May 28, 2008 23:56:22 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on May 28, 2008 23:56:22 GMT -5
It's a FOS, not a vote, but you're pinging me something fierce. And if you don't see whats wrong with that succession of smudges, then no, I don't want to explain. I want you to keep talking. That's interesting. I'd like to hear your explanation, myself, if not immediately than at least at some point. And I'd like to hear your explanation of why You want an... Oh never mind, the joke's not that funny. But I'll still make it. (what? We can't be all seriousness and business up in this place! A guy's allowed SOME fluff!) Though I'm curious to see where this goes. As this just looks like smudges galore, and so far its all just hazy stuff to me.
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May 28, 2008 23:57:35 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on May 28, 2008 23:57:35 GMT -5
Sorry guys, no way part two of my post (practicle application) is going to get posted today. Cecilvania is...taking up some of my time,looks like we might need many subs by this time tomorrow. And work exploded. Oh yeah, and my car got towed. It's been a hell of a day. Back tomorrow. And hope you feel better and your days as well. I look forwards to your Practical App post.
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May 29, 2008 0:03:17 GMT -5
Post by Greedy Smurf on May 29, 2008 0:03:17 GMT -5
Care to explain? I missed something I just love getting FOS'd with no explanation for it. It's a FOS, not a vote, but you're pinging me something fierce. And if you don't see whats wrong with that succession of smudges, then no, I don't want to explain. I want you to keep talking. There's a succession of smudges in my post? Really? Let's break my post down shall we? I think it pretty clearly says I think Hal is not a demon. Yes, it is based on metagame reasons. I do throw out the idea that if he is possessed maybe he has broken the rules but we just don't know it yet. The China game when Roosh came up with his shoes gambit, the town didn't find out until quite some time later that Roosh had indeed been punished. And in the interim there was a lot of attention devoted to why wasn't he punished?, does he still have his power?, etc, etc. Worth noting I think. This bit I could see being called a smudge. That's not how I meant it but fair enough if that's how you want to interpret it. I wanted to put it out there that this was a possibility. If I'm the only one who has had the possibility cross their mind, I'd be very very surprised! If I get FOS'd for baldly stating the possibility and putting it out there so be it. Smudges?... Nope. Simply examining the likelihood, given Hal's actions, of him having a power role. And if it was me I wouldn't be yelling I'm a "power role' in Day 1 unless I knew I could protect myself from the scum.
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May 29, 2008 0:07:47 GMT -5
Post by ryjae on May 29, 2008 0:07:47 GMT -5
Well after reading storytellers post I'll say this, according to my PM
1: There are/is a demon hunter who can tell if someone is possessed 2: They must then alert another role, to actually perform the exorcism
It doesn't state how they communicate nor any other mechanics I can help out with. Such as what happens to the player possessed etc.
Yes that means I'm not vanilla town, and no it doesn't worry me immensely at this date what scum will do to me, as Father Redford and I didn't just meet.
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May 29, 2008 0:08:27 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on May 29, 2008 0:08:27 GMT -5
Actually Hal being a type 1 demon was my first option in my huge list o possibilities.
I personally don't see the smudges, and am thus confused by that sudden FOS.
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May 29, 2008 0:15:17 GMT -5
Post by Mister Blockey on May 29, 2008 0:15:17 GMT -5
Well after reading storytellers post I'll say this, according to my PM 1: There are/is a demon hunter who can tell if someone is possessed 2: They must then alert another role, to actually perform the exorcism It doesn't state how they communicate nor any other mechanics I can help out with. Such as what happens to the player possessed etc. Yes that means I'm not vanilla town, and no it doesn't worry me immensely at this date what scum will do to me, as Father Redford and I didn't just meet. Congratulations, you have reaffirmed my apprehensions for this board. That was a complete bonehead move if you're telling the truth, and I currently don't really have the time to do a possibility redux. To the rest of the town, particularly to the power roles, please do not role claim until either you have to do so to avoid a lynch, or you actually have something of value to tell us apart from your role. Any other role claim causes more confusion than help, and the people with the best use of both the confusion, and the smidgen of information given in any day one role claim, are, and always will be the scum.
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May 29, 2008 0:25:17 GMT -5
Post by ryjae on May 29, 2008 0:25:17 GMT -5
Hell you wanted to know more about this too. According to your previous postings. Since my breadcrumbing was ignored in my previous post on Hal and then I read storytellers post I realized if I would've shared it a while ago we could've spent more time scum hunting.
Instead we're like a dog chasing his tail, and thats getting us no where.
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May 29, 2008 0:39:05 GMT -5
Post by Darth Sensitive on May 29, 2008 0:39:05 GMT -5
I, too, need a shoe-horn.
Need the rulings against speaking of shoes extend to not talking about legs as well?
A crafty player might read beyond the level of other gagged player's posts. I believe one person already has.
Hand it to our mod, I think he has a handle on how much should be allowed. Hal could be crying out for help, but all it's gotten him so far seems to be suspicion.
There seems to be too much fixation on demon types today, and not enough on voting - we can always come back to the demon discussion, but we won't be able to undo a no lynch.
Isn't it time we started putting real votes out there?
Much has been said, little has been done.
Time for me to do this: Stardragonman has been online recently, and not even said 'hi'.
Vote Stardragonman
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May 29, 2008 0:42:04 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on May 29, 2008 0:42:04 GMT -5
A few things: Yes my lists will make you want to curl up into a ball and cry. This is mafia, mafia with power roles, which means any reasonable list will do that to you. We assume that S2 demons just hop around on host death, so that lynching one flips a townie automatically. While possible I'm not sure that I find it likely. It just seems that that's an extremely overpowered scum mechanic, and while I know the dangers of trying to outguess the game mod, I also lived with him for a year, and he's smarter than that. For whatever it's worth, I do find it a reasonable mechanic, considering the information we've got at this time. If we knew of more than two, or didn't think there was somebody to exorcise them, then I'd lean towards thinking they don't jump. But we don't know of more than two (meaning I'd think three or four, max), and we're pretty sure there's somebody that can pop them without killing the host, right? So I don't see it imbalanced at all, especially if you wanna give any weight to RyJae's claim. I'd rather Darth address this, but I can show you what I saw if the need arises. See, and I don't feel that from him at all. If those crumbs I think I see aren't real, then I can revisit my feelings on this, but right now, to my eye, he and Darth have shown too much convergence of knowledge to think they aren't playing from the same book. And if I think that, then I think that BOTH of them working a false claim is way too risky a gambit for scum. Better than someone random, maybe. But there's still some Day left, and this party is just starting to get loud. At this point, I think optimal town play is to lynch for information, and I think we can probably dig up a more attractive target to suit that goal before we run out of Daylight.
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May 29, 2008 0:46:30 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on May 29, 2008 0:46:30 GMT -5
And I think our dear mods post count is wrong, because thats the only thing I can find from Tragic yet. She's had 2 posts so far during Day 1. That one you mentioned, and she made one on May 27, 2008, 9:37am. psychopathgame.proboards106.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=tragic^ If you click on her name (or any player), you'll see all the Posts they've made. You can also click on the # on the outside of the thread topics, and you'll see the post counts of All the players for that specific Day. But you're right- far too few people ARE posting. However, the lowest posters (under 4) will be replaced. So to me the more suspicious lurkers the ones who will lurk, but "lurk enough" just to get over that minimum count. Ie: The ones who go through a whole week while posting in the single digits with minimal content. That's MORE suspicious to me, than someone who posts only 3 times in a week period. Btw: Stardragonman- you playing this game or what? Thanks for the tip. The search function up top only turned up the one post, I'll use your way. And normally, I'd agree that we wanna target those staying just to the good of the post count line. But the only post I saw by her was a response to you nudging her for being good at lurking... I just had to go there. I do think that "lynch lurkers" doesn't work unless we vote en masse and get some real pressure on, so if anybody wants to go somewhere else, I'll be happy to move my vote.
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May 29, 2008 0:46:38 GMT -5
Post by Greedy Smurf on May 29, 2008 0:46:38 GMT -5
I don't think there is much point in playing footsies as the scum are just as likely to be able figure out cryptic clues as us.
So since the beans have already been spilt.
Let me see if I've got this correct. (and this is of course assuming Ryjae is telling the truth)
We have A - a demon hunter role who would seem to be a cop of sorts. B - an Exorcist, who judging from the colour is able to exorcise Type 2 demons. C- The exorcist can only do his thing if given a target by the demon hunter D- Ryjae's presumption is that Hal is one of these two roles trying to attract the attention of the other in order to establish communication between them - so, I presume, they can share targets.
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May 29, 2008 0:57:42 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on May 29, 2008 0:57:42 GMT -5
It's a FOS, not a vote, but you're pinging me something fierce. And if you don't see whats wrong with that succession of smudges, then no, I don't want to explain. I want you to keep talking. There's a succession of smudges in my post? Really? Let's break my post down shall we? I think it pretty clearly says I think Hal is not a demon. Yes, it is based on metagame reasons. I do throw out the idea that if he is possessed maybe he has broken the rules but we just don't know it yet. The China game when Roosh came up with his shoes gambit, the town didn't find out until quite some time later that Roosh had indeed been punished. And in the interim there was a lot of attention devoted to why wasn't he punished?, does he still have his power?, etc, etc. Worth noting I think. This bit I could see being called a smudge. That's not how I meant it but fair enough if that's how you want to interpret it. I wanted to put it out there that this was a possibility. If I'm the only one who has had the possibility cross their mind, I'd be very very surprised! If I get FOS'd for baldly stating the possibility and putting it out there so be it. Smudges?... Nope. Simply examining the likelihood, given Hal's actions, of him having a power role. And if it was me I wouldn't be yelling I'm a "power role' in Day 1 unless I knew I could protect myself from the scum. Ok. Maybe we've got different definitions of smudge. From where I'm sitting, I see you making a list of illfounded arguments to lynch a man that I believe has done enough to buy him some benefit of the doubt. This ain't to say I trust the man, I don't trust anybody right now. And I'm not at all clear why he's doing what he's doing. But I don't see scum motivation, and I don't see maximum benefit from his lynch right now, so I think we can best put our time and votes elsewhere. And you aren't (you're not alone, you're just who I'm picking on). And I'm about to need to log off, but since you were nice enough to respond to my prodding, I'll be back inna bit with an explanation of my FOS, and we can go from there, k?
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May 29, 2008 0:58:30 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on May 29, 2008 0:58:30 GMT -5
D- Ryjae's presumption is that Hal is one of these two roles trying to attract the attention of the other in order to establish communication between them - so, I presume, they can share targets. I REALLYREALLY don't like talking about this further, but I don't think this is the case. In light of Darth's words as well. So I don't think that's what Ryjae's trying to say there- at least about Hal, I think he posted just because he wanted to get the discussion AWAY from Hal. You have left off the idea of a Excorcizee in your list there.
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May 29, 2008 1:00:14 GMT -5
Post by hockeyguy8435 on May 29, 2008 1:00:14 GMT -5
I've been thinking today about possessing of townies. And this crossed my mind, what if, once a demon decides to possess someone, said player doesn't know they're possessed. If you think about movies or anything that have demons possessing a host, the host is never aware they're possessed. Maybe this is how atarus keeps the possessed from alerting the townies? Only problem I thought of with that is while possessed a player, in theory, wouldn't have control of their own body. So any roles they have wouldn't take effect, etc. But what about votes? Would the demon be able to change they're vote to whatever, and wouldn't that then reveal they were possessed?
Also, I agree with others that too few players are posting, myself included, but I'm trying. A lot of people still haven't hit the five posts minimum, and some haven't posted once. We need to pick up the pace.
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May 29, 2008 1:01:24 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on May 29, 2008 1:01:24 GMT -5
Whew, it took a minute to get caught up, but I assure you all that I have done so quite thoroughly, and am more than ready to rock'n roll.
First, my take on the Demons Types 1 & 2: I've seen a couple of suggestions that I find intriguing. I feel like the most likely possibility is that D2mons (love it, RoOsh) possess survivors, perhaps changing victims if lynched, whereas the D1mons probably behave as more traditional scum. Perhaps D2mons know how many there are of their number, just not who they are.
I do also like the possibility that one group is made of several godfather-types and the other of drones. It sounds a little remote, but I kinda like it.
I know, I know, we should concentrate on data and facts, but I think it helps to get a good picture of what might be possible, as long as we don't fall into the trap of turning these possibilities into assumptions that negate other equally valid possibilities.
Second, on the Hal issue: all that I feel confident so far on him is that his move was intended to confuse us in some way. It's hard to tell what motivation would be behind that. I'm certainly not seeing it as a wanton revelation, or a silly foray into "hey look at me tapdance" territory. I really think the confusion had an intended purpose, and I'd like to know what it is.
Third, I noticed a post I consider...rife with possibility: TDPatriots wrote: "Take mrblockey's list, we could spend a lot of time discussing every single possibility and it might be just as much a waste of time, if not moreso, especially if it is a scum ploy to throw everything out of whack. FYI, I am not actually against discussing everything on said list, just using it to illustrate a point. We can't be entirely sure of what was and wasn't a waste of time until the endgame, right? Or at the very least we start getting some confirmed information..." (I know most code tags are like on the SDMB...is quoting the same? Yeah, I know. Pour some newb sauce on me.)
That made me wonder if perhaps the truth is a possibility not actually included on misterblockey's famed list, and this comment by tdpatriots is an attempt to distract us from looking for any other potential scenarios for the scum to operate within. This does not speak toward my view of misterblockey's alignment one way or another. I finger you with my suspicion tdpatriots!
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May 29, 2008 1:08:26 GMT -5
Post by Greedy Smurf on May 29, 2008 1:08:26 GMT -5
Ok. Maybe we've got different definitions of smudge. From where I'm sitting, I see you making a list of illfounded arguments to lynch a man that I believe has done enough to buy him some benefit of the doubt. This ain't to say I trust the man, I don't trust anybody right now. And I'm not at all clear why he's doing what he's doing. But I don't see scum motivation, and I don't see maximum benefit from his lynch right now, so I think we can best put our time and votes elsewhere. And you aren't (you're not alone, you're just who I'm picking on). And I'm about to need to log off, but since you were nice enough to respond to my prodding, I'll be back inna bit with an explanation of my FOS, and we can go from there, k? Woah. Where did I say I wanted to lynch Hal? I'm not advocating lynching Hal today. If I did I would already have voted for him. At the moment I am leaning very much towards the view that he's probably a townie power role. Because he's trying to attract someone's attention. Which has been semi-confirmed by Ryjae. I think you misunderstood my post, it wasn't a " we should lynch Hal and here's why" post. It was a " here are my thoughts on Hal"post.
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May 29, 2008 1:20:20 GMT -5
Post by Greedy Smurf on May 29, 2008 1:20:20 GMT -5
D- Ryjae's presumption is that Hal is one of these two roles trying to attract the attention of the other in order to establish communication between them - so, I presume, they can share targets. I REALLYREALLY don't like talking about this further, but I don't think this is the case. In light of Darth's words as well. So I don't think that's what Ryjae's trying to say there- at least about Hal, I think he posted just because he wanted to get the discussion AWAY from Hal. You have left off the idea of a Excorcizee in your list there. I'm happy to drop the Hal discussion for the moment. I think the problem is in a closed set up, there is so little info, that when a piece is put on the table it gets taken apart and examined from every possible angle for every little of insight it can provide. And, at the end of the day, we aren't going to stop examining someone simply becasue they tell us to. We've seen how far that attitude has gone in the past.
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Day One
May 29, 2008 1:31:09 GMT -5
Post by RoOsh on May 29, 2008 1:31:09 GMT -5
(I know most code tags are like on the SDMB...is quoting the same? Yeah, I know. Pour some newb sauce on me.) The top right of every post made has a "quote" button. Click it and you can get a copy of the quote to reply to at the end. I just do that multiple times to get multiple posts together in one post. But that's the way I do things. I never tried just using "quote" like the SD, but I'm sure it works here too. I just like that button since it adds time and stuff like that.
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May 29, 2008 1:34:47 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on May 29, 2008 1:34:47 GMT -5
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Day One
May 29, 2008 1:37:37 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on May 29, 2008 1:37:37 GMT -5
That made me wonder if perhaps the truth is a possibility not actually included on misterblockey's famed list, and this comment by tdpatriots is an attempt to distract us from looking for any other potential scenarios for the scum to operate within. This does not speak toward my view of misterblockey's alignment one way or another. I finger you with my suspicion tdpatriots!' You quoted it, so I'm assuming you saw this part:
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Day One
May 29, 2008 1:41:54 GMT -5
Post by bufftabby on May 29, 2008 1:41:54 GMT -5
(I know most code tags are like on the SDMB...is quoting the same? Yeah, I know. Pour some newb sauce on me.) The top right of every post made has a "quote" button. Click it and you can get a copy of the quote to reply to at the end. I just do that multiple times to get multiple posts together in one post. But that's the way I do things. I never tried just using "quote" like the SD, but I'm sure it works here too. I just like that button since it adds time and stuff like that. Hey wow, my browser actually likes the quote button. It argues about the rest of the bells and whistles over here. That's good, because the quote coding looks like a giant pain in my ass that I'd rather not experience. Woohoo, buttons: the cause of, and solution to, all life's problems.
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