Santo Rugger
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 13, 2008 23:20:07 GMT -5
You parsed that a lot differently than I did. I took it to mean that no investigative role has come up with a scum result thus far. KidV trusts him enough to believe his claim (that he would investigate as scum) but not enough to trust that he's a Miller, and therefore pro town. He wasn't clamoring to be investigated, he was making a point. Which was apparently lost in translation.
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Post by Mister Blockey on Oct 13, 2008 23:26:40 GMT -5
You know what. The whole let's lynch someone who says Peekercpa has immunized them thing is bugging me a lot.
With no easy target I guess I'll Unvote NAF
and Vote DiggitCamera
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Post by diggitcamara on Oct 13, 2008 23:46:21 GMT -5
So, here I was, trying to catch up with the posts and thinking that, after some people guessed the reason why I proposed that peekercpa should disclose who he had "feathered", he would tell us. Strangely though, he says he "feathered" me. Now: 1. I wasn't notified of a failed attack 2. peeker didn't press the issue So, I have to say that I have to vote peekercpaOk let's try this again. Did you even read what I posted. I am not telling you who I feathered. I posted that I feathered you so that by your logic you would have to lynch yourself. Apparently, subtlety is lost on scum. You know I've played this game a couple of times and this is some of the most scurrilous reasoning ever encountered. I mean I am not this good at this game but at least I try. So you are either scum or even worse than I am. Dude. You. Did. NOT. Say. That. Yes, now (finally) you tell us you won't say who you feathered. Convenient. Funny, because it would be just about the only way we could actually know you're telling the truth. Because: even though you were redirected to yourself by Santo... we don't actually know what was redirected. But, hell. I've been a sub-par player (with sub-par powers, btw) and I may even deserve to get lynched. Since this is (probably) my last post in this game, I wish town good luck!
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Post by Pollux Oil on Oct 14, 2008 0:37:43 GMT -5
Ugh, this Day happened at about the worst possible time for me. Long story short, I had a job interview on Friday, a long weekend of fun with college friends where I wasn't home from basically 6 PM Friday until 9 PM Sunday, then I started my new job today, and I'll be at that job during the deadline tomorrow. Plus, I'm tired as all fuck as I've had about 8 hours of sleep the last two Nights.
I don't like the fact that the Day had finally been gradually moving away from the Peeker rigamarole and then right at the end of the Day Darth and DC come in and try to start up yet another Peekerwagon. I read everything but I'm not sure I processed it all in my current state. I know this looks really bad but this weekend was just hella busy.
I'll Vote Diggit because I don't think Peeker should be lynched and I think Diggit is more suspicious than Darth.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 14, 2008 1:29:56 GMT -5
Ok let's try this again. Did you even read what I posted. I am not telling you who I feathered. I posted that I feathered you so that by your logic you would have to lynch yourself. Apparently, subtlety is lost on scum. You know I've played this game a couple of times and this is some of the most scurrilous reasoning ever encountered. I mean I am not this good at this game but at least I try. So you are either scum or even worse than I am. Dude. You. Did. NOT. Say. That. Yes, now (finally) you tell us you won't say who you feathered. Convenient. Funny, because it would be just about the only way we could actually know you're telling the truth. Because: even though you were redirected to yourself by Santo... we don't actually know what was redirected. But, hell. I've been a sub-par player (with sub-par powers, btw) and I may even deserve to get lynched. Since this is (probably) my last post in this game, I wish town good luck! I am most undoubtedly not telling anyone whom I protected on night one. Ok, it was you DC. I assume your vote will be forthcoming. *Ahem* Liar. And this may truly be town on town violence but I seriously not getting DC
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Post by Chucara on Oct 14, 2008 1:46:44 GMT -5
...The fact that he is theoretically confirmable makes me want to let him win. *snip* Could you explain this part? It makes no sense to me. Sorry - replace "win" with "live". If we can verify your claim, I see no reason to lynch you.
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Post by peekercpa on Oct 14, 2008 1:47:51 GMT -5
Oh, and for our anal retentive mods (don't get all hot and bothered buffer there are no pee cakes involved)
Vote DC
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Post by Almost Human on Oct 14, 2008 5:41:47 GMT -5
Almost Human has a bunch of little things that add up to a decent case against her. There was the goal slip, but that alone isn't it. The main thing is the fact that after saying she's inclined to believe peeker for Day 1, Day 2, and a good amount of Day 3, she suddenly votes him on Day 3 for the simple reason that when she mentions her belief of the Legacy Virus only having a 25% infection rate after peeker said as much she believes a lynch of him is suddenly good. However, as was clearly listed in the PM, the legacy virus infection rate is never mentioned. Only the fatality rate is. The PM even says there are nasty effects that inflict the survivors. (And, as I've noted before, I still don't understand why peeker didn't get this from his own role. Yeah, that pings me about you as well, peeker, more than anything else you've said or done this game.) It seems as if AH was looking for any reason possible to change her mind to peeker since he's going to be a safe lynch for anybody. (After all, Millers have to die eventually, the conventional wisdom says. Any townie or scum can essentially get a "Get Out of Responsibility for Lynch Free" card with a lynch like that.) (snipped) Whoa talk about misrepresentation or at least misunderstanding. My reason for voting for Peeker yesterDay was mostly because it seemed like a toss up between him and Boozy at the time I placed my vote. The main reason people were suspicious of Boozy were due to them either not believing his claim and/or because he made a comment about Peeker being a roleblocker. Out of the two of them I preferred to vote for Peeker because at least his death would in some way prove or disprove the roleblocking claim Boozy mentioned. Also out of the two, once it'd been said (by NAF I believe but I haven't gone back to check) that the legacy virus only killed 25% of the time I felt that Peeker's powers were less valuable to the town than Boozy's. Unfortunately many of you disagreed with that and we ended up losing an investigator instead. Way to bloody go!
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Post by storyteller0910 on Oct 14, 2008 7:24:19 GMT -5
UATU WILL NOW PROVIDE A VOTE COUNT
diggitcamara (5) - Almost Human, Hoopy Frood, peekercpa, misterblockey, Pollux Oil Kid Vermicious (2) - Santo Rugger, NAF1138 Nanook (2) - hawkeyeop, bufftabby peekercpa (2) - Darth Sensitive, diggitcamara NAF1138 (1) - FDr.HoD zeriel (1) - Chucara
THE DAY WILL END IN FOUR AND A HALF HOURS, AT 12:00PM (NOON) EST TODAY. HOWEVER, UATU WILL NOT LIKELY BE AROUND TO POST THE DUSK UNTIL CLOSER TO 3:00PM - UATU HAS A THREE-HOUR MEETING BEGINNING AT 12 AND RUNNING UNTIL 3. IF THE HUMANS PREFER, UATU CAN CLOSE THE DAY FIFTEEN MINUTES EARLIER THAN PLANNED AND POST THE DUSK ON TIME. HE WILL DO THIS ONLY IF DISCUSSION APPEARS TO BE MORE OR LESS STAGNANT AT THAT TIME.
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Post by Zeriel on Oct 14, 2008 7:46:56 GMT -5
Uatu should check himself to see why peekercpa is voting twice.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Oct 14, 2008 8:01:44 GMT -5
PREVIOUS VOTE COUNT CORRECTED.
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Santo Rugger
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The Rugger formerly known as Pygmy[on:BYAHH!][of:BYAHH?]
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 14, 2008 8:41:23 GMT -5
UATU, you can tell me the roles of the three top vote getters, and I'll inform the town of their alignment when the Day is supposed to be over. You know, to make things easier for you.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Oct 14, 2008 8:42:35 GMT -5
Thanks, Santo. I'd take you up on that, but my meeting has been pushed back to 12:30, so it looks like we'll be OK. Maybe next time. Two hours and twenty minutes remain in the Day.
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Santo Rugger
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 14, 2008 8:43:01 GMT -5
...Unfortunately many of you disagreed with that and we ended up losing an investigator instead. Way to bloody go! A lot of us thought our "investigator" was lying. You make it sound like you knew he wasn't. Any reason why?
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Post by Nanook on Oct 14, 2008 8:47:33 GMT -5
In other words, you didn't demonstrate what you were doing, at least not fully. Irrelevant. I wasn't trying to demonstrate my entire powers, just the zombie raising part. I didn't care what Molefan had to say really, since I couldn't imagine him having important information and not sharing it before the lynch. The zombie part was the important part.
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Post by Nanook on Oct 14, 2008 9:01:08 GMT -5
Ok now that I've caught up, some thoughts on the current situation.
Am I the only one that's at least a little freaked out by the fact that for the second Day in a row we appear to be heading headlong into a last minute lynch of someone out of nowhere? YesterDay, Boozy wasn't on anyone's radar really, then out of nowhere a train develops and he gets lynched. And now Today, DC goes from nothing to leader in the same way. Peeker is basically OMGUS voting, Pollux's reasons are specious at best, blockey and AH are lynching an idea instead of the person. Only Hoopy made anything resembling a real case.
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying that DC is town or scum. What I'm saying is that I dislike a last minute lynch with very little reasoning laid out for it.
So as not to be a hypocrite, my real vote, which considering how late in the Day it is will not be made, would be on NAF. He's playing in the same way that he's played in previous games that he was scum. By that I mean, he's sitting back and lurking a bit, and when he does come in he's being all super helpful townie without really saying anything. He hasn't really taken any positions that people can point to, nor has he really expressed any opinions. He's just provided advice and asked questions, which is exactly how he plays when he's scum.
For my vote, I'm going to go with Greedy. If he's telling the truth, which I admit is a big if, it's an ability that could be useful for a one shot raise and info dump.
Vote Greedy[/color]
If I survive the Night, I'd appreciate it if anyone could figure out a way to confirm me. As I stated, it seems to me that a confirmed townie is worth more than the loss of one zombie potential.
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Post by Almost Human on Oct 14, 2008 9:02:26 GMT -5
...Unfortunately many of you disagreed with that and we ended up losing an investigator instead. Way to bloody go! A lot of us thought our "investigator" was lying. You make it sound like you knew he wasn't. Any reason why? At no point did I even imply that! What I said was:
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Post by Hawkmod on Oct 14, 2008 9:15:01 GMT -5
For my vote, I'm going to go with Greedy. If he's telling the truth, which I admit is a big if, it's an ability that could be useful for a one shot raise and info dump. You are doing this again? Do you really think your power is more important then lynching scum? If you think NAF is scummiest, vote for him. The Diggit lynch, which I agree is lackluster, certainly isn't guaranteed to occur.
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Post by Nanook on Oct 14, 2008 9:20:14 GMT -5
You are doing this again? Do you really think your power is more important then lynching scum? If you think NAF is scummiest, vote for him. The Diggit lynch, which I agree is lackluster, certainly isn't guaranteed to occur. If I felt that my vote would cause NAF to be lynched over DC or someone else, I would switch it. Since it looks to be a one off at this point, I'll vote for my power instead.
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Post by Hawkmod on Oct 14, 2008 9:31:30 GMT -5
You are doing this again? Do you really think your power is more important then lynching scum? If you think NAF is scummiest, vote for him. The Diggit lynch, which I agree is lackluster, certainly isn't guaranteed to occur. If I felt that my vote would cause NAF to be lynched over DC or someone else, I would switch it. Since it looks to be a one off at this point, I'll vote for my power instead. How do you know it will be one off? It isn't like Diggit is running away with this thing. Quite a few people, myself included, have expressed suspicion of NAF. If NAF gets a couple of more votes he becomes a viable choice. I know if I have to choose between NAF and Diggit, I'm picking NAF. For the meantime, I'm happy with my current vote.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 14, 2008 9:39:17 GMT -5
The mason claim hasn't got much discussion because there's not much to discuss--with no counter-claims, you guys are confirmed unless the real mason(s) are playing some kinda bizarre waiting game. I'm doing a reread in the hope of getting a vote in. If Hoopy and Misterblockey are false claiming, it only needs one Mason to come out and counterclaim; even if we lynch that one, the death will expose two liars and give us two good targets. It's not worth the Horesemen setting up a fake claim.
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Post by Nanook on Oct 14, 2008 9:42:11 GMT -5
How do you know it will be one off? It isn't like Diggit is running away with this thing. Quite a few people, myself included, have expressed suspicion of NAF. If NAF gets a couple of more votes he becomes a viable choice. I know if I have to choose between NAF and Diggit, I'm picking NAF. For the meantime, I'm happy with my current vote. I'm still around and able to switch if the situation warrants it. Until it does, I'm leaving my vote where it is.
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Post by Merestil Haye on Oct 14, 2008 10:00:52 GMT -5
KidV indicates that one of his primay reasons for lynching me was because I am a Miler and "I have to be lynched eventually" (paraphrased FCS). Now no investigative role has come up with this result thus far. So he trusts me enough to believe my claim (I would investigate as scum) but not enough to trust that as Miller I am pro town. I know that bad logic does not equal scum. But inconsistent logic is inherrantly fishy. I find myself in a similar sort of position to Nanook. I believe you when you say you'll investigate as a scum. I don't yet trust you enough to know whether you are scum or not. The one thing I am sure you're not is PFK. I'm not urging your lynch. I find the flavour of your claim quite credible, so I'm waiting for evidence wither way. But Nanook's logic is well founded; you can huff and puff and insist it's bad logic, but it's not. Your claim that it is is not well-founded.
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Post by KidVermicious on Oct 14, 2008 10:23:33 GMT -5
What a hell of a night to lose my internet connection.
I'm back now, and I'm going to Vote NAF[/color]. It's unfortunate that this is OMGUS, but I'd vote for anybody thats played as generically as he has, who then comes in and tosses off a vote while admitting he hasn't even read the Day.
Thats a sign that he's not invested in who gets lynched, as long as it isn't him. I suspect that NAF as town would have held his vote, considering that the mods have already said there's no penalty for not voting.
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Post by storyteller0910 on Oct 14, 2008 10:25:18 GMT -5
UATU WILL NOW PROVIDE A VOTE COUNT
diggitcamara (5) - Almost Human, Hoopy Frood, peekercpa, misterblockey, Pollux Oil Kid Vermicious (2) - Santo Rugger, NAF1138 Nanook (2) - hawkeyeop, bufftabby peekercpa (2) - Darth Sensitive, diggitcamara NAF1138 (2) - FDr.HoD, Kid Vermicious zeriel (1) - Chucara Greedy Smurf (1) - Nanook
THE DAY WILL END IN 46 MINUTES.
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Post by Zeriel on Oct 14, 2008 10:27:21 GMT -5
Honestly, not a lot is jumping out at me except the suddenness of the DiggitCamara lynch mob. That is bothering me. Therefore, I'm going to vote for the person I think has the worst logic:
vote misterblockey
Frankly, I don't like any of the alternatives. The other thing that's got me increasingly suspicious is peekercpa's absolute insistence on not doing anything that could confirm himself--like revealing one of his targets. I find this behavior suspicious in the same way I find Nanook's suspicious--there are ways we, as a town, could use our existing claimed power roles to at least attempt to get more information, but the people I'm most suspicious of are avoiding doing so for nebulous reasons--despite the fact their powers are already out there in public view.
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Post by KidVermicious on Oct 14, 2008 10:30:08 GMT -5
IF THE HUMANS PREFER, UATU CAN CLOSE THE DAY FIFTEEN MINUTES EARLIER THAN PLANNED AND POST THE DUSK ON TIME. HE WILL DO THIS ONLY IF DISCUSSION APPEARS TO BE MORE OR LESS STAGNANT AT THAT TIME. Oh, sure. If the humans prefer. Even on Skrull Planet? Shame on you, Uatu. (I'm good with stopping early if there's nothing going on)
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Post by Hawkmod on Oct 14, 2008 10:30:13 GMT -5
You are voting for a mason?
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Post by The Real FCOD on Oct 14, 2008 10:32:45 GMT -5
Honestly, not a lot is jumping out at me except the suddenness of the DiggitCamara lynch mob. That is bothering me. Therefore, I'm going to vote for the person I think has the worst logic: vote misterblockeyFrankly, I don't like any of the alternatives. The other thing that's got me increasingly suspicious is peekercpa's absolute insistence on not doing anything that could confirm himself--like revealing one of his targets. I find this behavior suspicious in the same way I find Nanook's suspicious--there are ways we, as a town, could use our existing claimed power roles to at least attempt to get more information, but the people I'm most suspicious of are avoiding doing so for nebulous reasons--despite the fact their powers are already out there in public view. Umm... hate to break it to you but you're voting for a confirmed mason... I don't think scum would be that stupid, but you're not doing a good job of remaining un-suspicious with a move like that. --FCOD
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Santo Rugger
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The Rugger formerly known as Pygmy[on:BYAHH!][of:BYAHH?]
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Post by Santo Rugger on Oct 14, 2008 10:34:18 GMT -5
Irrelevant. I wasn't trying to demonstrate my entire powers, just the zombie raising part. I didn't care what Molefan had to say really, since I couldn't imagine him having important information and not sharing it before the lynch. The zombie part was the important part. But you didn't even verify that. Yes, you raised a zombie, but we have absolutely no reason to believe it was because of who you voted for that Day.
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