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Feb 18, 2009 17:47:42 GMT -5
Post by roxis on Feb 18, 2009 17:47:42 GMT -5
Holy shit, Nanook. Long post. The PM I recieved had no mention of water or ice. If it had been Squirtle then there would have been water or ice left behind. Why would you assume that? That would be pretty damn close to mod confirmation of Roxis's claim, and I don't believe Pede would do such a thing. Heh and reading farther along, I see that he says exactly that, though in reference to killing instead of other actions. I can't see him differentiating between the two however. My PM does say that there will be traces of water or ice if Squirtle redirects. Pede wouldn't just all of a sudden NOT SAY THAT because I'd claimed to have that role. Besides, it would confirm that someone had that role, not necessarily me, and it would confirm nothing of my or anyone else's alignment.
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Feb 18, 2009 17:51:00 GMT -5
Post by Nanook on Feb 18, 2009 17:51:00 GMT -5
Well you're half right. I am in fact Sheik, but I am not scum.
The only reason you can see for me to call out to you is so that my supposedly scum buddies don't kill you? Didn't even consider that I might want to know who you are so that I could not try and attack you?
Ed basically called out half the damn game as his scum buddies. I'm pretty sure all his non-spam posts were him grabbing things from the thread and running with them.
Peeker is an older guy who has said repeatedly he's confused by the color. Him picking up on Zelda makes sense considering his age, since Zelda has been around a long time at this point.
I had no clue about your post restriction. I don't generally bother that much with Night, and people not posting at Night is not something I would notice.
You are in fact correct that we are not the same alignment though. I am not Town. I'm the PFK. All I want is to drive you out of my head so I can be free again. You know how hard it is to live your life with a second person inside your head, trying to control you? It's enough to drive a hot ninja insane I tell you.
(I finally looked my character up today btw. She is totally hot. And a ninja. It's like bonus hotness.)
I told you why I can't be found at Night. I'm a ninja. What self respecting ninja would allow themselves to be found at Night? Be serious now.
Oh and before you ask, no I won't share my role PM or win condition. What are you going to do, lynch me? Go for it. Between the fact that I don't think I can pull off my win now and the near constant attacks on my playing style, I don't really care anymore. Course, the double mislynch thing will probably hurt some, but thems the breaks.
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Feb 18, 2009 17:55:55 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Feb 18, 2009 17:55:55 GMT -5
Votes: Player | Vote 1 | Vote 2 | Vote 3 | KidVermicious | molefan | crazypunker | paulwhoisaghost | Natlaw | Hal Briston | peekercpa | KidVermicious | Pollux Oil | Hal Briston | Nanook | Natlaw | paulwhoisaghost | Nanook | Hal Briston | crazypunker | crazypunker | Nanook | Hal Briston | KidVermicious | molefan | KidVermicious | Nanook | Hoopy Frood | roxis | | Nanook | | shaggy | peekercpa | Hal Briston | shaggy |
Totals: Votee | Total | Voters (#1) | Voters (#2) | Voters (#3) | Hal Briston | 12 (12) | Natlaw, Pollux Oil | paulwhoisaghost, crazypunker, shaggy | | Nanook | 12 (10) | paulwhoisaghost, crazypunker | Pollux Oil, molefan, roxis | | KidVermicious | 5 (5) | molefan | | Natlaw, crazypunker | Parzival | 5 (5) | |   |   | peekercpa | 5 (5) | shaggy | Natlaw | | molefan | 3 (3) | KidVermicious | | | crazypunker | 3 (3) | | KidVermicious | paulwhoisaghost | shaggy | 1 (1) | | | shaggy | Hoopy Frood | 1 (1) | | | molefan | Natlaw | 1 (1) | | | Pollux Oil | paulwhoisaghost | 1 (1) | | | KidVermicious |
Not Voting: Hal Briston, Hoopy Frood, Kat, Nanook, Parzival, peekercpa
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Feb 18, 2009 17:56:33 GMT -5
Post by roxis on Feb 18, 2009 17:56:33 GMT -5
'kay, if Nanook is telling the truth, best not to lynch him. Scum has to take him out anyway, let them waste their NK.
Unvote Nanook
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Feb 18, 2009 19:21:08 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Feb 18, 2009 19:21:08 GMT -5
'kay, if Nanook is telling the truth, best not to lynch him. Scum has to take him out anyway, let them waste their NK. [colorRed]Unvote Nanook[/color][/b][/quote] Not to mention that regardless of what Nanook is, he has confirmed the connection between the two. Now onto the lovers: I can't see both being town, because with the sheer bloodiness this game has been, it'd approach the level of gastardness at this point. Lovers always die together. I can't see both being scum, because I think that would gastard the game the other direction and be unfair to scum (although, with their extra kills and the SK it might actually balance, but I still think not) Plus, typically lovers are on opposite teams anyway. Now, due to the nature of the claim, and the fact that multiple people were calling for Zelda, I'm inclined to believe that Zelda is town. Nanook could be either scum or PFK, but it's largely irrelevant. I don't think at this point we should lynch either of them out. Because if Nanook is telling the truth, we will get 1.5 mislynches, whereas if we leave them for scum, we only get one-half of a mislynch. (Due to the decrease in non-scum numbers.) Also, if Nanook is the killer, he's better served to be alive to us. Because we can have WIFOM the scum on who gets protection between the various players here. But the 5 posts thing makes sense, in light of the fact that Zelda is a crazy split-personality bitch. (They always say "don't touch the crazies". Link apparently doesn't listen.) I just gotta say, this is one complex game you got going here, ped. It's like the bastard love-child of SMB and Marvel.
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Feb 18, 2009 19:23:06 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Feb 18, 2009 19:23:06 GMT -5
I do want to hear peeker's explanation of why he called out Zelda, though.
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Feb 18, 2009 19:33:24 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Feb 18, 2009 19:33:24 GMT -5
Well, Hell, it looks like I was wrong. Like I said, I was fairly positive that my unfound target wasn't PFK, because of his posting history, but looks like he may be. Yes, I targeted Nanook. And I had been sure he wasn't PFK.
I'm going to tentatively #1 vote KidV based on his enthusiastic defense of Nanook.
The Zelda diary seems to hint that the Pikmin guy is Town-aligned, if Natlaw is Town. I suppose it could be a PFK/PFK Lovers 2-angle (as opposed to Triangle), but even if it is, "Zelda" is not likely to be the "imposter" (and based on the Zelda callout, it's highly likely that role is in the game), so we don't need to lynch her.
Also, based on Zelda's Diary, #2 vote peeker for participating in the Zelda callout. I don't have a #3 vote yet.
Natlaw, if you live through the Day, would you like me to experiment with you as a target? It shouldn't kill you. Probably. ;D
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Feb 18, 2009 20:37:50 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Feb 18, 2009 20:37:50 GMT -5
Unvote All
Got a lot to digest here.
Anyway, I'm fairly surprised nobody caught on to what I was doing toDay. I basically used the strategy toDay of flinging shit and seeing what stuck. I think I cast votes for about half the people in the game just to get people to talk/gauge responses and see if any bandwagons formed off of my votes. Color me not surprised at all a lynch-the-lurker wagon formed after I put down my votes.
I'll be back after Lost to do a full rundown (aka long-ass post) and put down my official votes.
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Feb 18, 2009 20:48:05 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Feb 18, 2009 20:48:05 GMT -5
1. Vote Hal 2. Vote peekercpa 3. Vote KidV
I've looked at the case against Hal. Both Shaggy and Natlaw make compelling points. I also look at Day one, and Hal seemed to be one of the more active ones trying to push for a Mitey or Zeriel lynch. Looking at the histories for everyone who voted 3 masons with Ed last, only MHaye (town) comes across as being as sure as Hal was about it. Though, roxis and tdPats (town) aren't too far behind. Brokentree seemed to be the least sure of the bunch.
With peekercpa, it's more of a gut feeling than anything. I find his mention of Zelda interesting, in that Nanook calling for Zelda made sense for obvious reasons. Ed calling out of Zelda could be either Ed taking a page out of scummy Nanook's book, or just noticing the post and including it as part of his spam. But the fact that peeker was the only non-spamming, non-connected poster to mention Zelda strikes me as odd. Other than that, I've played both scum and town with peeker. And his posting style is different. Now I know he's trying to scale back his obscureness, but I see a different aspect in how he's doing it this game then how he did it in SMB.
With KidV, it's mainly his "you're town but not confirmed" thing with a dash of a lot of defense of Nanook.
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Day 4
Feb 18, 2009 21:10:39 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Feb 18, 2009 21:10:39 GMT -5
I misremembered: it was Pollux de Fuego who did the accusing. peekers post seem to be more about game strategy than on finding SCUM. Today his posts were about: -SCUM having enough time by now to make fake role PMs Sure, but fake still means there can be errors to catch and since we had a couple of more claims now, a mass claim looks OK to me. -That lynch the lurker is not good at this point in the game. True, but if there is a scum lurker that also gives a nice defense not to lynch them -Dings when crazypunker wonders what is behind the non-letal attacks on Kat and himself. He gives some info, but perhaps he can explain this cryptic comment: -Responds to Pollux and adds some content about shaggy and paul probably being town. Good, but had to be called out to do it. -That we can't afford to lynch the PFK -Rest mostly fluff except for this post - was asked about it, but I didn't see an anwser yet: Not that these are all anti-town by themselves, but if that is what most of your posts are, it becomes a bit too convenient. So for now: 2. Double vote for peekercpaOk, Kidq ypu and me seem to get imto it about this time in every game. Let's make it clear for you. I don't like Paul's power. I don't like the shaggy action. But I also don't see them scum motivated. Capiche. Mother of Og I have played with Nanook many times and his reticence has been a focus of many of my observations. I kind of think it comical that his post restriction would have any impact on this game. FCS, he is not posting any more anyways. Folks that are voting for him are just wrong if it's because his level of participation. I despise absolutes in this game, especially when they are self generated. If someone tries to validate alignment based on a previous set of posts I kind of go, Meh. The only folks doing that are scum justifying themselves. And if I mis spoke regarding PFKs let me be clear. I have no idea what a PFK win condition might be or whether they are still in the game or whether they help us townies more than they hurt scum. If there are some more specific questions that you need fleshed out, just let me know. Fixed coding.
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Feb 18, 2009 21:36:01 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Feb 18, 2009 21:36:01 GMT -5
Votes: Player | Vote 1 | Vote 2 | Vote 3 | Kat | KidVermicious | peekercpa | | KidVermicious | molefan | crazypunker | paulwhoisaghost | Natlaw | Hal Briston | peekercpa | KidVermicious | paulwhoisaghost | Nanook | Hal Briston | crazypunker | crazypunker | Nanook | Hal Briston | KidVermicious | molefan | KidVermicious | Nanook | Hoopy Frood | shaggy | peekercpa | Hal Briston | shaggy |
Totals: Votee | Total | Voters (#1) | Voters (#2) | Voters (#3) | Hal Briston | 9 (9) | Natlaw | paulwhoisaghost, crazypunker, shaggy | | Nanook | 8 (8) | paulwhoisaghost, crazypunker | molefan | | KidVermicious | 8 (5) | Kat, molefan | | Natlaw, crazypunker | Parzival | 5 (5) | | |   | peekercpa | 7 (5) | shaggy | Kat, Natlaw | | crazypunker | 3 (3) | | KidVermicious | paulwhoisaghost | molefan | 3 (3) | KidVermicious | | | shaggy | 1 (1) | | | shaggy | paulwhoisaghost | 1 (1) | | | KidVermicious | Hoopy Frood | 1 (1) | | | molefan |
Not Voting: Hal Briston, Hoopy Frood, Nanook, Parzival, Pollux Oil, peekercpa, roxis
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Feb 18, 2009 21:36:37 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Feb 18, 2009 21:36:37 GMT -5
I just gotta say, this is one complex game you got going here, ped. It's like the bastard love-child of SMB and Marvel. Aww...thanks!
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Feb 18, 2009 21:49:48 GMT -5
Post by shaggy on Feb 18, 2009 21:49:48 GMT -5
Nanook could be either scum or PFK, but it's largely irrelevant. I do want to point out this post by nanook : You are in fact correct that we are not the same alignment though. I am not Town. I'm the PFK. So Unless I am missing something, like he was addressing someone else, I would say, he is a PFK. So if I am wrong I am sorry, and please clariy for me. If I got it right then he is a PFK. I do agree that for the time being, it is better to put them in the back pocket and find the scum. If he is telling the truth and is not scum but is a PFK, then leave the vigs and sk's to deal with them. And if he is scum, then well eventually the scum will have to take out one of them to win as well. Or we take one out after we are pretty sure the rest of the scum are dead. Feel bad that one was town, yes but win the game. Atleast this is my 2 cents worth.
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Feb 18, 2009 22:18:35 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Feb 18, 2009 22:18:35 GMT -5
I just gotta say, this is one complex game you got going here, ped. It's like the bastard love-child of SMB and Marvel. Aww...thanks! You're welcome. Now update my votes.
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Feb 18, 2009 22:31:23 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Feb 18, 2009 22:31:23 GMT -5
Votes: Player | Vote 1 | Vote 2 | Vote 3 | Hoopy Frood | Hal Briston | peekercpa | KidVermicious | Kat | KidVermicious | peekercpa | | KidVermicious | molefan | crazypunker | paulwhoisaghost | Natlaw | Hal Briston | peekercpa | KidVermicious | paulwhoisaghost | Nanook | Hal Briston | crazypunker | crazypunker | Nanook | Hal Briston | KidVermicious | molefan | KidVermicious | Nanook | Hoopy Frood | shaggy | peekercpa | Hal Briston | shaggy |
Totals: Votee | Total | Voters (#1) | Voters (#2) | Voters (#3) | Hal Briston | 12 (12) | Hoopy Frood, Natlaw | paulwhoisaghost, crazypunker, shaggy | | KidVermicious | 9 (6) | Kat, molefan | | Hoopy Frood, Natlaw, crazypunker | peekercpa | 9 (7) | shaggy | Hoopy Frood, Kat, Natlaw | | Nanook | 8 (8) | paulwhoisaghost, crazypunker | molefan | | Parzival | 5 (5) | | |   | crazypunker | 3 (3) | | KidVermicious | paulwhoisaghost | molefan | 3 (3) | KidVermicious | | | shaggy | 1 (1) | | | shaggy | Hoopy Frood | 1 (1) | | | molefan | paulwhoisaghost | 1 (1) | | | KidVermicious |
Not Voting: Hal Briston, Nanook, Parzival, Pollux Oil, peekercpa, roxis
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Feb 18, 2009 22:48:27 GMT -5
Post by harmless little bunny on Feb 18, 2009 22:48:27 GMT -5
I disagree with Peek about LTL. I think that later in the game the scum might try to hide more. Especially with all of the mislynches thus far. I think they will be content to let us talk it out and decide to vote people based on the small amount of information that we already have rather than give us more. First is Nanook. He has only 5 posts per day, but WTF? That is no reason to just post 1 time yesterday and not post at all (yet) today. It seems like a very convenient fake post restriction more than an actual post restriction. Care to comment Nanook? Vote Nanook 1I am beginning to wonder where Hal is as well. Vote Hal 2This is almost word for word the reasoning that I gave for voting them. So what did she state for reasoning? ORLY? So punk... you just me too'd a me too. Your not really helping disprove the case I made against you... Crazypunker- For someone who usually has a lot to say, you haven't posted much toDay. In fact, all I can remember off the top of my head that you have posted is a crackpot theory about 2 mad bombers. Besides, someone has to get the third vote. Granted it was a third vote... but still. So... now your recent activity consists of a crackpot theory... defending the crackpot theory... and then me too'ing a me too. Let's try a little harder, k buddy? First of all I just said that I hadn't read Roxis' post, so how would I know it was a me too? I was posting mine at the same time as she was posting hers. Did you check the time signatures? Second of all, I don't really think you had any real case against me to begin with, so what am I to disprove?
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Feb 18, 2009 23:07:45 GMT -5
Post by peekercpa on Feb 18, 2009 23:07:45 GMT -5
1. Vote Hal 2. Vote peekercpa 3. Vote KidVI've looked at the case against Hal. Both Shaggy and Natlaw make compelling points. I also look at Day one, and Hal seemed to be one of the more active ones trying to push for a Mitey or Zeriel lynch. Looking at the histories for everyone who voted 3 masons with Ed last, only MHaye (town) comes across as being as sure as Hal was about it. Though, roxis and tdPats (town) aren't too far behind. Brokentree seemed to be the least sure of the bunch. With peekercpa, it's more of a gut feeling than anything. I find his mention of Zelda interesting, in that Nanook calling for Zelda made sense for obvious reasons. Ed calling out of Zelda could be either Ed taking a page out of scummy Nanook's book, or just noticing the post and including it as part of his spam. But the fact that peeker was the only non-spamming, non-connected poster to mention Zelda strikes me as odd. Other than that, I've played both scum and town with peeker. And his posting style is different. Now I know he's trying to scale back his obscureness, but I see a different aspect in how he's doing it this game then how he did it in SMB. With KidV, it's mainly his "you're town but not confirmed" thing with a dash of a lot of defense of Nanook. I'll take this chance to apologize for not my playing my normal game. It seems that if I post a lot with random meanderings I am toast. If I post with less frequent random meandersings I am toast. I am going to echo Nanook's upthread observations. If I am going to get mis-characterized no matter what, then it's time I step away. And I know that it is not personal but it is darn frustrating. Now I know how Dot feels. I'll try to check in tomorrow but am off to the wild blue yonder, AGAIN.
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Feb 18, 2009 23:56:50 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on Feb 18, 2009 23:56:50 GMT -5
I misremembered: it was Pollux de Fuego who did the accusing. peekers post seem to be more about game strategy than on finding SCUM. Today his posts were about: -SCUM having enough time by now to make fake role PMs Sure, but fake still means there can be errors to catch and since we had a couple of more claims now, a mass claim looks OK to me. -That lynch the lurker is not good at this point in the game. True, but if there is a scum lurker that also gives a nice defense not to lynch them -Dings when crazypunker wonders what is behind the non-letal attacks on Kat and himself. He gives some info, but perhaps he can explain this cryptic comment: -Responds to Pollux and adds some content about shaggy and paul probably being town. Good, but had to be called out to do it. -That we can't afford to lynch the PFK -Rest mostly fluff except for this post - was asked about it, but I didn't see an anwser yet: Not that these are all anti-town by themselves, but if that is what most of your posts are, it becomes a bit too convenient. So for now: 2. Double vote for peekercpaOk, Kidq ypu and me seem to get imto it about this time in every game. Let's make it clear for you. I don't like Paul's power. I don't like the shaggy action. But I also don't see them scum motivated. Capiche. Mother of Og I have played with Nanook many times and his reticence has been a focus of many of my observations. I kind of think it comical that his post restriction would have any impact on this game. FCS, he is not posting any more anyways. Folks that are voting for him are just wrong if it's because his level of participation. I despise absolutes in this game, especially when they are self generated. If someone tries to validate alignment based on a previous set of posts I kind of go, Meh. The only folks doing that are scum justifying themselves. And if I mis spoke regarding PFKs let me be clear. I have no idea what a PFK win condition might be or whether they are still in the game or whether they help us townies more than they hurt scum. If there are some more specific questions that you need fleshed out, just let me know. Fixed coding.Was ... this intended for me, Peeker?
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Feb 19, 2009 0:53:14 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Feb 19, 2009 0:53:14 GMT -5
Okay, so. I believe Nanook could be scum lying about being the PFK. The real PFK clearly isn't going to jump out and say "he's lying, I'm the PFK!" as that would just reveal him to the scum. But I also think he's less likely to be scum because that would make two scum members that could be easily revealed (the other being the mason scum). If Nanook isn't the PFK the PFK will probably go after him/Natlaw. So it's clearly in our best interest to leave them alone toDay.
That being said, our claimed pool now looks like this:
Unless all four of the unclaimed are our remaining scum, we've got a few scum hiding in the already claimed department.
I'm hesitant to lynch Hal without letting him claim first. On the other hand, he's acted suspicious and the lurking isn't helping. I'm suspicious of crazypunker for his jumping on the lynch-the-lurker bandwagon fairly quickly. I'm also suspicious of paulwhoisaghost for the same reasons. I think KidV's powers could very well be a scum power. I'm not too sure what Kat's powers are so I'll save judgment on her until later. Peeker.....hm.
If I were to organize my suspicions, I'd say:
Hal, crazypunker, KidV, paulwhoisaghost are scum.
Nanook's a PFK.
Therefore:
1. Vote crazypunker 2. Vote KidVermicious 3. Vote Hal Briston
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Feb 19, 2009 2:04:46 GMT -5
Post by harmless little bunny on Feb 19, 2009 2:04:46 GMT -5
I meant to post this much earlier, but I had a friend show up and I completely forgot that I was in the middle of writing a post.
At this point I think it would be a mistake to lynch Nanook. No matter what his alignment is we would end up losing Natlaw as well. Also, killing the PFK over scum at this point would be a bad thing as previously mentioned. That is if Nanook is PFK of course.
Unvote Nanook 1
I think that Molefan is looking pretty town right now in my eyes. He is confirmed protecting two people who are also looking very town in my eyes. If he is scum he has me fooled. That is why I can't understand KidV's motives. Why would you want to lynch what could possibly the only protective role we have left? I was already suspicious of him earlier for reasons already listed, and now I am even more so. I am moving him from my third vote and voting him 1
Vote KidV 1
Pollux: As for your vote on me for the LTL bandwagon thing, I already explained my reasons about why the LTL might be a viable strategy at this point in the game. We have been wrong on a lot of our reasons for voting, but we have always lynched people who have been pretty active this game. That is definitely not working. I think that the more people post the more chance for other players to find something in one of the posts that looks scummy, even if they aren't scum. The other thing about LTL is that it forces those players to contribute.
So regardless of your claim about me bandwagoning I am going to leave my second vote on Hal.
Vote Crazypunker 3 for now. I am going to go back and look at the Zelda/Sheik thing because it feels like there is more to it.
also, Molefan: did you get a pikmin today or do you get it at the end of the day?
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Feb 19, 2009 4:55:06 GMT -5
Post by Parzival on Feb 19, 2009 4:55:06 GMT -5
Going back to something KidV(?) said, I'm actually in favor of LTL now since nothing else seems to be doing well for us. I think most of the people already outed are town, or at least more likely to be town than the quiet scum. And I'm sure there are some of those.
So I'm going mostly on gut, since there's little to chew on with my choices:
Vote: 1. peekercpa 2. Hal Briston 3. Natlaw [/b]
As for peeker, he pings me as if he knows something that he's not letting on. Not that he's exactly quiet, but the content isn't so much. Could just be style, could be a ploy as a scum player, and my hunch is it's the latter. Hal seems the lurkiest here without having a good reason for it. As for Natlaw, it's my third vote, but my first impression is I don't believe him. So I'm putting that objection on the record, so to speak (even if I'm not in favor of him actually getting lynched today).
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Feb 19, 2009 6:18:55 GMT -5
Post by Holy Moley! on Feb 19, 2009 6:18:55 GMT -5
Molefan: did you get a pikmin today or do you get it at the end of the day? I got one at the start of today, and I'll get another tonight. That'll make three in total, and I 100% intend to use them to protect myself. OK first, a mild FoS on anyone who's ever referred to the Nanook bandwagon as "lynch the lurker". First off, we were almost certainly right, at least about his role being anti-town; and secondly, at least two of us - Paul and myself - had excellent reasons for voting Nanook based on his early posts (in my case) and his claimed post restriction (in Paul's). I don't see "lurking" being mentioned as a factor there. Punker is a different case because he seems to have copied Paul's vote and didn't give him credit. That certainly might get Paul riled up, but it's no reason to vote Punker off. As for Roxis, you know my opinions about her. As for Peeker - his very playstyle is one that makes reads hard, if not impossible, for me to interprit. If Nanook's the PFK then the Zelda reference is that much less suspicious, but it's still odd. Hal... early on I had a mild town read on him, just on the basis that voting based on role PMs isn't uncharacteristic of him as town. My main concern with both him and KidV has always been that both were in the suspicious early Zeriel votors day 1. He also seems to be keeping his head down and riding out the fallout at the moment, when I'd think he should be coming out to declare his alignment. I'm undecided as to whether this is anti-town or scummy, but it's not helping his cause here. Based on that, I'm going to Unvote All.1: Vote Kid Vermicious.2: Vote Hal Briston. 3: Vote Peekerpca.
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Day 4
Feb 19, 2009 6:26:41 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Feb 19, 2009 6:26:41 GMT -5
The only reason you can see for me to call out to you is so that my supposedly scum buddies don't kill you? Didn't even consider that I might want to know who you are so that I could not try and attack you? To be honest scum tell!, I didn't. I thought about that you could be town, but dismissed it for balance reasons (giving scum or pfk a double kill chance seems imbalanced) and special eds post. Ed basically called out half the damn game as his scum buddies. I'm pretty sure all his non-spam posts were him grabbing things from the thread and running with them. Since they're deleted, no point in dwelling too much on them, ed made several posts of X is scum, Y is not - but out of his 8 pages of spam, he only mentioned Zelda in a direct, non spam response to me. Peeker is an older guy who has said repeatedly he's confused by the color. Him picking up on Zelda makes sense considering his age, since Zelda has been around a long time at this point. I've seen peeker accused of posting fluff, but never that he skims or is a bad player. The only other mention of Zelda is in a Day One post about the actual video game. I had no clue about your post restriction. I don't generally bother that much with Night, and people not posting at Night is not something I would notice. Like peeker, I think you're smart enough to pick that up from your role PM, based on how mine explains our relationship. Even if you are telling the truth about being a PFK Ninja (not Night targetable), then unless town or SCUM have a Day kill, we need to lynch us to win. I can't see both being scum, because I think that would gastard the game the other direction and be unfair to scum (although, with their extra kills and the SK it might actually balance, but I still think not) What do you base the extra kills on? I thought earlier the trophyfy gun was one, but have since changed my mind. Nanook might be right here that I put to much trust in Links PM posted by Pollux de Fuego though, but the kill record would be odd (imposter never killing). Zelda is a crazy split-personality bitch Sure, kick me when I down, Popo!
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Day 4
Feb 19, 2009 6:56:29 GMT -5
Post by Natlaw on Feb 19, 2009 6:56:29 GMT -5
he Zelda diary seems to hint that the Pikmin guy is Town-aligned, if Natlaw is Town. That is purely based on the fact of me being convinced Nanook is SCUM and I wouldn't expect a scum molefan to make up that failed investigation. Also I wrote the dairy not pedescribe (since I knew I would probably claim, I colored it a bit ). I do not have an investigative power. Natlaw, if you live through the Day, would you like me to experiment with you as a target? It shouldn't kill you. Probably. And since I'm not convinced Sheik is PFK, so not sure if you just claimed PFK there, but that would mean your are lying. Or you might have targeted Nanook Night One, where we only had two kills (guessing either SK or SCUM blocked), while last Night we probably had a SK kill. Also do you have any specific clue I could die Today besides lynch? Aka your scum and just slipped that they have a (one shot?) Day kill - which would explain Chucara's Day block and add a way for SCUM to get to a Ninja Imposter Nanook without lynching. If you are town and you power might kill, targeting me Tonight could be helpful to check if I am targetable. Although I think our death should be delayed until at least Tomorrow (to allow me to use my power another time), but I need to recheck how killing/not killing us affects LyLo in case Nanook is PFK/SCUM.
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Day 4
Feb 19, 2009 7:46:48 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Feb 19, 2009 7:46:48 GMT -5
We have been wrong on a lot of our reasons for voting, but we have always lynched people who have been pretty active this game. That is definitely not working. We have? The first two Days were taken up by the masons. All of them were pretty active Day 1. By Day 2, the lynch target was obvious. YesterDay we lynched chucaraubby, who while active, it was her odd voting patterns and justifications that looked scummy. Now I know this game feels like it's been a long one, but we've only lynched 3 times. Town hasn't been doing that badly considering the lack of data points we've been able to get, largely through no fault of our own. This isn't Marvel where Town played horribly in the first part of the game. We've just had a lot of kills go through, and the mason thing was a negative due to the noise it produced, both from the distraction it provided and the spamming Ed did. We're playing with considerably less data than Town usually has by Day 4. Have there been mistakes made this game? Sure, there always are. But your comment is rather odd. It seems as if you're not playing the same game I am. 3. unvote kidv 3. vote crazypunker
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Day 4
Feb 19, 2009 8:07:36 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Feb 19, 2009 8:07:36 GMT -5
Votes: Player | Vote 1 | Vote 2 | Vote 3 | Hoopy Frood | Hal Briston | peekercpa | crazypunker | Kat | KidVermicious | peekercpa | | KidVermicious | molefan | crazypunker | paulwhoisaghost | Natlaw | Hal Briston | peekercpa | KidVermicious | Parzival | peekercpa | Hal Briston | Natlaw | Pollux Oil | crazypunker | KidVermicious | Hal Briston | paulwhoisaghost | Nanook | Hal Briston | crazypunker | crazypunker | KidVermicious | Hal Briston | crazypunker | molefan | KidVermicious | Hal Briston | peekercpa | shaggy | peekercpa | Hal Briston | shaggy |
Totals: Votee | Total | Voters (#1) | Voters (#2) | Voters (#3) | Hal Briston | 17 (17) | Hoopy Frood, Natlaw | Parzival, paulwhoisaghost, crazypunker, molefan, shaggy | Pollux Oil | peekercpa | 13 (11) | Parzival, shaggy | Hoopy Frood, Kat, Natlaw | molefan | KidVermicious | 12 (9) | Kat, crazypunker, molefan | Pollux Oil | Natlaw | crazypunker | 8 (8) | Pollux Oil | KidVermicious | Hoopy Frood, paulwhoisaghost, crazypunker | Parzival | 5 (5) | | |   | Nanook | 3 (3) | paulwhoisaghost | | | molefan | 3 (3) | KidVermicious | | | shaggy | 1 (1) | | | shaggy | paulwhoisaghost | 1 (1) | | | KidVermicious | Natlaw | 1 (1) | | | Parzival |
Not Voting: Hal Briston, Nanook, peekercpa, roxis
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Day 4
Feb 19, 2009 8:10:34 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Feb 19, 2009 8:10:34 GMT -5
What do you base the extra kills on? I thought earlier the trophyfy gun was one, but have since changed my mind. Nanook might be right here that I put to much trust in Links PM posted by Pollux de Fuego though, but the kill record would be odd (imposter never killing). Well, since the impostor can to be trophyfied, the impostor isn't the one using the trophification device. It was also used on Rysto to take him out Night 2. It also is mentioned in the scum win condition and not the town. So why would you think someone else has it? Nanook has even admitted he attacks at night, and he was looking for Zelda so he wouldn't attack her (and thus Zelda would commit suicide). Also, I was mostly referring to the SK (who is likely Nanook) who has killed many townies as well, thus removing a lot of (pro-town) data points.
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Day 4
Feb 19, 2009 8:34:48 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Feb 19, 2009 8:34:48 GMT -5
So the protectors might want to consider protecting Natlaw toNight, because if Nanook and Natlaw are both being truthful, Nanook can't be night killed. But Natlaw can. And the death of Natlaw will kill Nanook, who if the impostor will remove a large obstacle to scum (and give them essentially 2 kills toNight).
I'm not saying you should necessarily, but at least consider it, if for no more reason than to keep the scum guessing at who'll be protected toNight.
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Day 4
Feb 19, 2009 8:39:43 GMT -5
Post by Høøpy Frøød on Feb 19, 2009 8:39:43 GMT -5
And I know that it is not personal but it is darn frustrating. Now I know how Dot feels. I don't think you've been lynched Day 1 yet. ;D But really, what was with the Zelda thing?
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Day 4
Feb 19, 2009 9:05:27 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Feb 19, 2009 9:05:27 GMT -5
As a reminder, the Day ends in about 11 hours.
--FCOD
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