Day Four

[storyteller0910]

It was the most intense discussion of any Night yet, full of revelation and speculation. The bedraggled collection of Colonists that gathered at the Town Hall on the morning of the fourth day were more determined than ever to hunt down the threat in their midst. But one among them would not be joining the conversation. The morning roll call revealed the absence of one NAF1138.

It was eventually realized that no one, precisely, knew where the self-proclaimed Creator lived. Fortunately - or perhaps unfortunately he was not hard to find. The door to a tiny slum apartment building in the industrial section of New Canaan was standing open, and a huge pool of blood spilled from within onto the sidewalks outside. The door opened into a small antechamber, and then ten steps down into a huge, hidden sub-basement.

The assembled Colonists stared at the contents of the basement. There were five enormous tanks, filled with a bluish gelatin - in one was a fully formed Replicant, not alive, suspended in the gel. Other tanks, tubes, and inexplicable devices lined the outside of the room; searchers also found a leather-bound journal filled with sketches and mathematical formulae.

At the center of the room was a centrifuge with a refrigerated storage unit attached. Inside were three sample bottles, each containing a few mL of what could only be blood; each sample bottle was labeled with a code, so the identities of those who gave the samples would remain forever uncertain.

Against the centrifuge slumped NAF1139. His stomach has been cut open from side to side, and the gory remains of what was once his interior had been gratuitously spread about the room. The top half of his head has been meticulously removed, and the brain inside obliterated in the centrifuge. Pinned to his chest is a sheet of paper - a patent on Replicant technology, issued to NAF1138 many years ago.

NAF1138, The Creator (Pro-Colony), is definitely, definitely dead.

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Day Four begins now. It will end on Tuesday, December 12, at 5:00PM EST. Have fun, and try to stay alive out there.

[NAF1138]

BAH!

Pleo was right town is screwed.

Off to find out what the others have to say.

[Pollux Oil]

Well that sucks. Goodbye, O Creator.

I'm going to have to reread a few things before I place my vote. I'm just hoping there are a few more power roles out there for the Town that give us some sort of advantage, since we seem to have lost two of our biggest ones in Pleonast and NAF.

[sinjin]

Dang.

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

I'm trying not to get too lost in thought as to how much of an impact claiming early may have had on the fates of Pleo and NAF. Especially Pleo's claim being first, when he had to try and make something up that was convincing without having any other claims to build on. I'm starting to thing that is where things started to go south for us. We definitely have to break this slump.

[Zeriel]

I'm choosing, at this time, to believe that Pleo was attempting to leave breadcrumbs.

vote kassia

[Santo Rugger]

Aww, piss.

zeriel said:

I'm choosing, at this time, to believe that Pleo was attempting to leave breadcrumbs.

[colorBlue]vote kassia

[/color][/quote]


Well, regardless of weather she was a breadcrumb or not, we do know that Pleo had the town's interest at heart when he did his analysis.

[Drain Bead]

vote kassia

My suspicions of others have not gone away, but I think we may have a scum in the hand here, so I'm not going for the one in the bush.

[Santo Rugger]

drainbead said:

[colorBlue]vote kassia

[/color]

My suspicions of others have not gone away, but I think we may have a scum in the hand here, so I'm not going for the one in the bush.[/quote]

Who's the one in the bush?

[zuma]

Well, it's tempting to see Pleo's day 3 vote as a kassia breadcrumb. What bothers me is that why leave a breadcrumb? Why wouldn't he just vig her on night 2 if he investigated her day 2? Of course that could be explained by whatever this "resistance" to night kills is. I'd like to think a blade runner could vig anyone they like, but maybe that's just wishful thinking.

It also kind of bothers me that he was so blatant about his Santo Rugger breadcrumb. All he'd have to do in his final posts were to reiterate his suspicion of kassia.

I don't think I'll be placing a vote today (real-life today), but will go back and do a re-read and come up with one tomorrow.

[RoOsh]

Zeriel. Yeah, I fucked up on the Voting chart. I had c/p'ed the voting chart from Reply 203 (Day 3) onto my spreadsheet, and then when I was going to c/p it again, I kept looking around for who voted and who didn't vote, and I had written down 18 counted votes.
But that's because I had copied and pasted incorrectly, and the last line was left off (Pleo/Kassia vote). So yeah, that's my fault, and I fucked up.
I accept your suspicion of me for it as I shoulda caught that error, but I was being hasty.
I'll try not to have that happen again.

And rest in peace NAF
This is most uncool....

[RoOsh]

(PM sent to you NAF for out of game stuff btw)


I have been a major person in going after Pleonast, and I really fucked up on that one, guys.
So I know I should be a suspect, and I'll do my best to try to explain/defend myself. It was a combination of several factors and shit. But I understand that I'm a heavy suspect (as I've been one of the big guys in wanting him dead).

So if you have any questions, I will answer them. I'm really sorry, and its something that I accept a lot of the blame for. I fucked up, and I'll be the first to admit I had it out for Pleo.

I currently have an exam to study for (it's tommorrow), but if you leave your questions and such, I'll do my best to explain myself to you. It helps a little if you guys are nice about it (ie: Vitriolic questions will beget vitriolic answers), I don't want to be a jerk or anything though.

But yeah. I think i really fucked up. I just hope we can recover and fix this. We need to buckle down as a town and figure this stuff out....

The Vote Count thing will be posted up in my next post. Lemme go make it.

[RoOsh]

Votes Day 1: FINAL COUNT
Pleonast (5) - kassia, Santo Rugger*, diggitcamara, Roosh, Diomedes
zuma1.0 (6) - Cookies, Kat, Yattara, zeriel, Death by Irony, Sinjin
CatinaSuit (4) - NAF1138, drainbead, hockey monkey, episodeofblonde
zeriel (3) - CatinaSuit, Captain Klutz, mhaye
Kat (2) - Pleonast, Parzival
NAF1138 (1) - Hal Briston (Cat2.0)
mhaye (1) - atarus*
kassia (1) - zuma1.0
Non-Voters: (3) BM [Zuma2.0], HazelNutCoffee [Tragic]


Votes Day 2: 18 Votes of 21
Diomedes (9*) - drainbead, atarus, Parzival, CometotheDarkSideWeHaveCookies, kassia, Tragic, episodeofblonde, DeathbyIrony, *Dio self votes in final 5 mins
Pleonast (5) - Santo Rugger, diggitcamara, sinjin, Roosh, zuma 2.0, [Diomedes*]
kassia (2) - NAF1138, Pleonast
Death by Irony (1) - Captain Klutz
Zeriel (1) - mhaye
Non-Voters: (3): Hal Briston(CatinaSuit2.0), Yattara (), Zeriel


Votes Day 3: 19 of 19 votes Cast
Pleonast (10) - zuma v. 2.0, sinjin, Roosh, Santo Rugger, drainbead, CatinaSuit v. 2.0, kassia, Kat2.0, Captain Klutz, diggitcamara
Death by Irony (2) - atarus, CometotheDarksideWeHaveCookies
sinjin (2) - Zeriel, NAF1138
Zeriel (2) - Parzival, Tragic
Roosh (2) - episodeofblonde, Death by Irony
Kassia (1)- Pleonast
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*Atarus and Gov.Rugger are italicized as possibly confirmed Townies.
GR by Pleo
Atarus by way of Masonhood.
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**All errors are my own fault, if I made them, I'm sorry. I'm just going by hand and by MS Excel. I do take responsibility for them though, just point it out, and I'll correct it in future versions. Gracias**
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(PS: Dotchan, you never responded to me at Night as to why you voted for me. I'm quite curious still, as it made no sense to me).

[Gir!]

I'm not as sure on the kassia angle. Couldn't Pleo have just said straight out in his final post "Kassia is guaranteed scum" without any sort of claim or explanation, knowing (or at least hoping) that his role reveal would back up the statement? Or would that have been still counted under the restriction on claiming?

Unless there's another vig-type role, I'm betting Pleo killed Kat version 1.

We are so screwed.

Why can't I post this damn post?

[Gir!]

Yay!

[Parzival]

I'm not sold yet on voting for Kassia. I kind of think he would have made it a lot clearer if he'd found her as scum, but I haven't checked all his posts yet. I'd also like to try and see if he may have tried to breadcrumb someone else as innocent (seeing as how that was a more likely investigation result).

Regardless, we ought to take the full time Today and not speed lynch, just to review everything else that's happened.

RIP to NAF. Guess no one's coming back now.

[zuma]

kat said:

Yay!

What exactly are you celebrating?

[CatInASuit]

NAF1138 - sorry to see you taken out.

We'll see if we can catch some scum for you.

[CatInASuit]

For those of you desperate enough to vote for kassia on the grounds of Pleonast's breadcrumbs, I will repeat the following from Pleonast.

Reread my analysis posts on Day Two and Day Three for how I approached looking for scum without homing in on inconsequential things. I don't know how right I am, but at least I'm approaching it in a useful way.

If you are going to vote for her, can you find other proof she is scum?

[Captain Klutz]

Again, there wes only one kill last Night. It makes mw think that the killing roles are (were) vig, scum, and possibly some one-off killer.

I'm now starting to think that Pleo killed Kat.v1: he voted for her, and it was the only "clean" kill (the other deaths have been very bloody, which is how the Replicants killed in the introduction).

If this is right, then the single Night 2 kill was not Pleo's. What happened to Pleo's kill? Well, either:
1. He chose not to kill
2. His kill was blocked (Doctor/role blocker etc)
3. He targeted a Replicant who successfully "resisted"

It's a bit difficult to assign probablities to these, but it's not looking good for kassia. Kassia was a reasonable investigative target for Pleo, and he revoted for her on Day 3.

However, I'm not sure why he was generally wishy-washy about his final vote: if he knew that kassia was scum, why didn't he reinforce that he was happy with his vote? And if his vote was only based on suspicion, why did he not unvote? He wasn't exactly subtle when it came to Rugger, so I can't see why he couldn't have been equally clear about his final vote.

[Captain Klutz]

Night 3.76 by atarus

Okay, in my (not-so-humble) opinion, I think most everybody is OVERthinking what I said about the Nexus-9.

Yes, well, sometimes I do slightly overthink things...

The point is, I don't want everybody to overanalyze and have the town fall into a trap of overthinking things that don't need to be overthought. Either the Nexus-9 is inactive during the Day and active during the Night, or it's inactive until it decides to talk with the other rogue Replicants and/or kill someone, then it becomes active. From looking at my role PM, I believe these are the only two interpretations that need to be considered.

Okay, but those 2 interpretations give widely differing periods of activation, so until we know which is the correct one, we can't tell if or when the Nexus-9 is activated.

[CatInASuit]

Ok, here are the posts for one of the players, I seriously consider to be scum.

Step forward drainbead

Day 1

#21: Says Pleonasts plan is not a good idea
#51: Votes Kat for Guv'nor
#58: Fluff post
#80: Considers voting zeriel for Guv'nor
#122: Goes to break Guv'nor tie: Unvotes Kat, votes Santo Rugger
#159: Considers zeriel's slip a possible scumtell
#185: Is second vote for NAF1138, due to his plan of lynching lurkers
#188: Argues with NAF1138 over plan
#189: Gives reason for voting for Santo Rugger
#210: Fluff post
#268: FOS on dotchan for her vote on zuma
#281: voices suspicion of Pleonast and NAF1138
#334: Argues again about NAF1138's plan for lynching lurkers
#375: Argues against lynching Pleonast. Suggests the bomb method if a cop finds two scum
#419: Unvotes NAF1138 after roleclaim
#444: Posts a few items of interest re: NAF/Pleonast/Captin Klutz. Considers voting for NAF1138 or Diomedes
#445: revotes NAF1138 after NAF says he wanted to get suspicion.
#448: reiterates point about surviving first night by making town think he is scum
#450: Provides more reason against NAf1138
#453: Provides more reason against NAf1138
#462: Provides reasoning for voting for Guv'nor
#463: Cites NAF1138's case against CIAS v.1
#477: Unvotes NAF1138, is deciding between CIAS v.1 and diomedes
#484: Is second vote for CIAS v.1 citing NAF1138 and adds about CIAS v.1 wanting to take role of Guv'nor.
#517: FOS on Cookies citing her actions

Night 1:
#6: Fluff post
#27: Asks storyteller about the scum strategizing on Night zero
#38: response to zeriel over Night zero
#40: response to zeriel over Night zero
#52: Fluff post

Day 2:
#2: Mentions her leading candidate for scum is dead and not-scum (IMPORTANT for later on!!!)
#16: Provides her thoughts on sinjin's End of Day vote
#17: Assumes that CIAS v.1 was Vigged and that there is a Vigilante.
#23: Comment on NAF1138's ability
#43: Comment on NAF1138's samples
#53: Says Pleonast's analysis method has faulty logic in it.
#82: Considers Pleonast her main vote, but may consider voting for diomedes
#95: Is the second vote for Diomedes but may be lifted if he reveals his magic bag.
#141: Asks storyteller to prod people, Comment on atarus and the Vigilante
#156: Fluff post
#191: Response to Pleonast saying he is not a confirmed colonist

Night 2:
#7: Fluff post
#20: Comment on lurking and provides reasons for voting for Diomedes
#22: response to zeriel on voters for Diomedes. Comment on night strategy
#43: response to zeriel re diomedes's Magic Bag
#50: response to Cookies re diomedes
#59: fluff Post

Day 3:
#1: Fluff post
#6: Fluff post
#13: Fluff post
#17: Re-iteration of the bomb scenario for Pleonast if the cop finds two scum + issues
#63: Insta-Vote was going to be for Pleonast (In response to a question from CIAS v.2 over Day 2 #2 on who her leading suspect was.)
#65: Fluff Post
#66: Response to Roosh over Pleonasts plan. Is deciding whether to vote for Pleonast or Roosh
#85: Comment on zeriel finding issue on Roosh's voting record
#86: Response to Roosh re: diomedes and the magic bag
#125: Considers voting for either Pleonast of Roosh
#141: Votes Pleonast becuase she wants to stop people talking about Pleonast during the Day
#182: Comment on Pleonast about Santo Rugger being non-scum
#189: Fluff post
#191: Fluff Post
#192: Fluff Post

Night 3
#3: Fluff Post
#7: Points out that Santo Rugger is officially cleared
#16: Comment on breadcrumbs in Pleonasts posts
#17: Fluff post
#27: Comment on finding breadcrumbs
#51: Comment on Pleonast's vote for kassia
#52: Fluff Post

Day 4:
Is the second vote for kassia citing Pleonast's breadcrumbs

[CatInASuit]

And now for the analysis

1. She has been the second vote on someone four times in 3 days usually citing someone else's notes from a few posts previously and adding in a reason of her own. Aside from the vote on Pleonast, and her reasoning for that vote is scummy at best, they all follow the same pattern. Once or twice would be co-incidence, four times is pushing it a bit.

2. In response to a question of who her major suspect was from Day 1 (pretty obviously CIAS v.1) she says that her insta-vote would have been going to Pleonast. That doesn't make much sense at all. To say that she would have to have known that CIAS v.1 was going to be dead by the morning. Considering the method of death, that would strongly suggest scum.

3. Purely IMHO: something about her comments is bugging me.

So with that

vote drainbead

[Drain Bead]

pygmyrugger said:

drainbead said:

[colorBlue]vote kassia

[/color]

My suspicions of others have not gone away, but I think we may have a scum in the hand here, so I'm not going for the one in the bush.[/quote]

Who's the one in the bush?[/quote]

My guess would be Roosh, who I almost voted for yesterDay.

[Drain Bead]

catinasuit said:

And now for the analysis

1. She has been the second vote on someone four times in 3 days usually citing someone else's notes from a few posts previously and adding in a reason of her own. Aside from the vote on Pleonast, and her reasoning for that vote is scummy at best, they all follow the same pattern. Once or twice would be co-incidence, four times is pushing it a bit.

2. In response to a question of who her major suspect was from Day 1 (pretty obviously CIAS v.1) she says that her insta-vote would have been going to Pleonast. That doesn't make much sense at all. To say that she would have to have known that CIAS v.1 was going to be dead by the morning. Considering the method of death, that would strongly suggest scum.

3. Purely IMHO: something about her comments is bugging me.

So with that

vote drainbead

I think you might be misreading #2. Could you link me to the post you're referring to? I think I know what it is, but that isn't what I said.

[Drain Bead]

zuma said:

It also kind of bothers me that he was so blatant about his Santo Rugger breadcrumb. All he'd have to do in his final posts were to reiterate his suspicion of kassia.

You have a point. I hadn't really considered it from that angle, just figured that he'd investigate the governor Day One and whoever he was voting for on Day Two. When he continued that vote the next Day, I figured for sure he'd investigated her and she turned up scum. Maybe he thought the voting record plus the +/- posts were enough of a breadcrumb for kassia as scum, but breadcrumbing PR as town needed something a bit more obvious?

[episodeofblonde]

Oof. NAF, you will be missed. And we're well and truly buggered here if we don't catch some scum.

I am inclined to vote for kassia as one of the slim leads we have, but others have made some good points as to Pleo's uncertainty about her. She does seem like the best candidate so far.

Regarding Santo, I said in the night I thought he was cleared, before atarus made his claim/reveal. I guess he's not quite as cleared as I thought, but he's still more cleared than anyone else at this point (with the exception of atarus without a counterclaim, which has not materialised).

[CatInASuit]

drainbead said:

catinasuit said:

2. In response to a question of who her major suspect was from Day 1 (pretty obviously CIAS v.1) she says that her insta-vote would have been going to Pleonast. That doesn't make much sense at all. To say that she would have to have known that CIAS v.1 was going to be dead by the morning. Considering the method of death, that would strongly suggest scum.

I think you might be misreading #2. Could you link me to the post you're referring to? I think I know what it is, but that isn't what I said.

I have a better idea. Considering I think you are scum, why don't you lookup where I asked the question and convince me otherwise. It is pretty easy to find, but I want to hear your version without my assistance.

I look forward to your explanation.

[Tragic]

I'm inclined to look towards Pleo's suspicions too, but as you know I tend to put a lot more thought into votes than to vote on them this quickly. So I'm going to try and keep up with the flow of conversation and analysis this weekend while I have my company visiting.

I'm inclined to look at zeriel again after my last vote.

I really hope we can get some good debate going. So far I see a lot more hope for toDay than yesterDay. Hugs, kisses, love to all.. I apologize for my ill timed LOA just as things are getting good! I'll be back fully by Tuesday morning. In the meantime it's going to be a very light Day for me. <3

Cheers,
T.

[Gir!]

zuma said:

kat said:

Yay!

What exactly are you celebrating?

The fact that my post finally went through.