|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 19:18:45 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Jan 29, 2009 19:18:45 GMT -5
Votes: Player | Vote 1 | Vote 2 | Vote 3 | Aubby | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | brokentree | Zeriel | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | crazypunker | Parzival | | | Hal Briston | Zeriel | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | Hoopy Frood | crazypunker | | | Kat | MiteyMouse | Aubby | molefan | KidVermicious | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | Merestil Haye | Zeriel | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | misterblocky | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | MiteyMouse | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | molefan | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | Nanook | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | Zeriel | Parzival | roxis | peekercpa | Zeriel | peekercpa | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | Pollux Oil | | Mr. Special Ed | brokentree | roxis | MiteyMouse | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | Sachertorte | Nanook | Koldanar | Hal Briston | shaggy | Koldanar | Parzival | shaggy | sinjin | | Parzival | | Zeriel | MiteyMouse | crazypunker | brokentree |
Totals: Votee | Total | Voters (#1) | Voters (#2) | Voters (#3) | Zeriel | 31 (31) | Aubby, brokentree, Hal Briston, KidVermicious, Merestil Haye, misterblocky, MiteyMouse, peekercpa | Mr. Special Ed, roxis | molefan, Nanook, Parzival | MiteyMouse | 29 (29) | Kat, molefan, Mr. Special Ed, Nanook, roxis, Zeriel | brokentree, Hal Briston, Merestil Haye | Aubby, KidVermicious, misterblocky, MiteyMouse, peekercpa | Mr. Special Ed | 21 (19) | | Aubby, KidVermicious, misterblocky, MiteyMouse, molefan, Nanook, peekercpa, Pollux Oil | brokentree, Hal Briston, Merestil Haye, Mr. Special Ed, roxis | Parzival | 7 (2) | crazypunker | shaggy, sinjin | | Koldanar | 5 (5) | shaggy | Sachertorte | | crazypunker | 5 (2) | Hoopy Frood | Zeriel | | Nanook | 3 (3) | Sachertorte | | | roxis | 3 (3) | Parzival | | | brokentree | 2 (1) | | | Pollux Oil, Zeriel | Aubby | 2 (2) | | Kat | | peekercpa | 2 (2) | | Parzival | | shaggy | 1 (1) | | | shaggy | molefan | 1 (1) | | | Kat | Hal Briston | 1 (1) | | | Sachertorte |
Not Voting: Koldanar, Rysto, TDPatriots --FCOD
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 19:22:25 GMT -5
Post by roxis on Jan 29, 2009 19:22:25 GMT -5
Another thing that puzzles me, is why did Zeriel get a blank PM exactly like the generic one in the mason thread? Oooh, now that is interesting. I hadn't noticed that before - I thought he was just snipping out the location. But then, two problems arise from that. 1.) Why would he cut out the other two names? We already know it's Ed and Mitey. 2.) He stated that " pede screwed up his PM" and didn't give him the location. I doubt that pede would have just given him the template. Now, I know that pede made a mistake on my PM, but I can't believe he would give zeriel a blank PM. Unvote all.Vote 1. zerielVote 2. miteymouseVote 1. Mr Special Ed
|
|
Merestil Haye
FGM
Grudge Keeper
[on:Slumming it in the Middle-Earth][of:In the halls of Manw
Posts: 1,077
[ Exalt | Smite ]
Karma:
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 19:42:46 GMT -5
Post by Merestil Haye on Jan 29, 2009 19:42:46 GMT -5
Another thing that puzzles me, is why did Zeriel get a blank PM exactly like the generic one in the mason thread? Oooh, now that is interesting. I hadn't noticed that before - I thought he was just snipping out the location. But then, two problems arise from that. 1.) Why would he cut out the other two names? We already know it's Ed and Mitey. 2.) He stated that " pede screwed up his PM" and didn't give him the location. I doubt that pede would have just given him the template. Now, I know that pede made a mistake on my PM, but I can't believe he would give zeriel a blank PM. Unvote all.Vote 1. zerielVote 2. miteymouseVote 1. Mr Special Ed(Vote bleached for avoidance of confusion). Zeriel has never claimed to have been sent a blank template. His claim (see D001.367) was to have been sent a proper PM but with the names and board url omitted. Now we have Mr Special Ed's claimed PM to compare with the other two, I want to review the three side by side and see what comes up. First impressions tend to weaken the case against Zeriel and strengthen that against MiteyMouse; in particular, the format of the role name, and that Mr Ed's PM shows the other two Mason's names, but MiteyMouse's includes her own as well as the others. I'm not sure whether that warrants a change, so I'm going to sleep on it and decide in the morning, after caffeination.
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 19:54:20 GMT -5
Post by roxis on Jan 29, 2009 19:54:20 GMT -5
Just for ease so that we have them all in one place:
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 20:14:03 GMT -5
Post by Zeriel on Jan 29, 2009 20:14:03 GMT -5
What just jumped out at me is the phrasing of point 1. "You are a mason. The other masons are"... vs. "You are a mason. The masons are"...
Interestingly...this is the generic mason PM we were provided. Bolding is mine:
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 20:15:09 GMT -5
Post by Zeriel on Jan 29, 2009 20:15:09 GMT -5
The worst part about this for Mitey: I just got my ass handed to me in Idle's game for badly crafting a fake PM. Having just been raked over the coals for it, I know what I'm looking for.
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 20:16:12 GMT -5
Post by Zeriel on Jan 29, 2009 20:16:12 GMT -5
And finally, I think y'all ought to take a good look at anyone voting 1. Zer 2. Special Ed when I'm confirmed town. That's a good hiding place.
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 20:27:34 GMT -5
Post by roxis on Jan 29, 2009 20:27:34 GMT -5
Yeah, looking at all three together, it's pretty obvious which is the odd one out. I've no idea why pede would list all the Masons in Mitey's PM.
I've learned my lesson: I need to go with my first choice.
Unvote All
Vote 1. Miteymouse Vote 2. zeriel Vote 3. Mr Special Ed
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 20:33:00 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Jan 29, 2009 20:33:00 GMT -5
Ok, all of the mason pms differ from each other. Mitey posted hers first (+) for that, however she didn't wait until they all could be on line at the same time, (-). Zeriel posted his second and it was not an exact replica of Mitey's (+). Mr. Ed's seems to be an amalgam of both of them which gives him a nice out when Mitey or Zeriel turn up town (--).
Or it's all just Pede's way of not letting us determine who the SCUM mason is by reading their pms. I think I'm going with this one for the time being.
I have no idea who to vote for right now. A first!
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 20:34:07 GMT -5
Post by Rysto on Jan 29, 2009 20:34:07 GMT -5
Ok. Fully 12 people are voting for 2 or more masons. I ask these people: why are you voting for 1 or more players who stand a very high probability of being Town?
Not a single person out there seems to think that Mr. Special Ed is the most scummy out of the masons, yet he's solidly in third place. Stop taking the easy way out, people. If you're voting for all 3 masons, what are we supposed to conclude from your votes? What kind of analysis can we do of today's voting?
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 21:03:24 GMT -5
Post by tdpatriots12 on Jan 29, 2009 21:03:24 GMT -5
Intended on posting this a few hours sooner, but I discovered that Operation Anchorage had been released for Fallout 3. Talk about potentially fun Mafia themes, anyway, that's why this is later on Thursday than I had hoped to post. I decided to go back and do some re-reading to try and figure out which order to vote the masons in. Then Mr Special Ed came back and I waited to see what he had to say. MiteyMouseDon't like the magic bag and unsure about the fatigue excuse given to the masons. First, is there any specific evidence* that the Scum Mason is in communication with the rest of the scum that I missed in their thread? Second, why not try and test it out, perhaps with some clever trickery? Too late now. Granted, that may fall under the category of 'town disagreement.' But then, why post it on the main board, in full before telling the mason team, are the scum less likely to see it there? It just strikes me as inconsistent, like an overcompensation for a realized mistake. Also and this is a minor point, I'm inclined to (for ToDay) go with the opinions of the majority of masons, they decided in their three-handed way that Mitey is the scum. zerielSince I can't put it any better than MHaye did in his post, here's what he said. I agree with his analysis but not his conclusion of zeriel being scummiest. Pointers to SCUMminess; That PM. The fact that he didn't get sent the Mason board info straight away might be to avoid him getting the two boards mixed up, then Pede forgot to send him the extra PM for a while. Pointers against SCUMminess; Unilateral action to reveal this imbroglio Today. On balance Zeriel tips the scales, just barely, over the Mouse. I suppose the difference is that I think coming out early, even with the knowledge that doing so would likely expose his botched PM, was a pro-town move. That isn't to say I trust him, but I find his excuse plausible. I also think it's very possible that MHaye is right about possibly mixing the boards up, but not enough to override my suspicion of mitey. Mr Special EdThe fact that Mr Special Ed was the first to suggest not only coming out early as masons to the town in the mason thread, but even went far enough to say how quickly the town could dispose of them with and without a vigilante weighs heavily in his favor in my opinion. He could just be recognizing the inevitable, but I think the earlier the better for the town. Given the potential PM consistency issues, I think the capital-vs.-lower case "t" in town can be overlooked for now. But given that mathematically speaking he is as likely to be scum as the other two, he gets on the vote list. vote 1. MiteyMouse 2. zeriel 3. Mr Special Ed* The SCUM pamphlet in the PMs, specifically "angry retort" is what makes me question whether or not any communication exists or might even be a one-way thing. In any case it seems ambiguous to me as a pamphlet is generally a one-way document, not like a series of letters or something. Plus the retort... who wrote it and why? Too many questions. Couldn't it just be that the scum mason is like Commissioner Gordon in Batman ? Maybe mitey wanted that extra day in the hopes that they might hook up? I don't mean to spew endless unknowable scenarios, just working through in my head exactly why I don't 100% believe the notion that the scum have perfect knowledge of the mason boards. Not a single person out there seems to think that Mr. Special Ed is the most scummy out of the masons, yet he's solidly in third place. Stop taking the easy way out, people. If you're voting for all 3 masons, what are we supposed to conclude from your votes? What kind of analysis can we do of today's voting? Anyone going back to analyze ToDay and only looking at votes is the one taking the easy way out. I have been suspicious of aubby and brokentree today, but I am not 33% sure that either of them is scum. Maybe we're wrong about which of the masons is most likely to be scum, but objectively speaking Ed is just as good of an option as the other two, and that's why my vote is where it is. That being said, I do see your point and I did rethink the notion of putting Ed third, but on consideration I think that my reasons for doing so are logical. Despite how crappy I am with probabilities and numbers.
|
|
Trepa Mayfield
FGM
Does Not Follow Directions
The only kind of panda worth preserving.
Posts: 989
[ Exalt | Smite ]
Karma:
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 21:31:57 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Jan 29, 2009 21:31:57 GMT -5
Votes: Player | Vote 1 | Vote 2 | Vote 3 | Aubby | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | brokentree | Zeriel | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | crazypunker | Parzival | | | Hal Briston | Zeriel | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | Hoopy Frood | crazypunker | | | Kat | MiteyMouse | Aubby | molefan | KidVermicious | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | Merestil Haye | Zeriel | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | misterblocky | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | MiteyMouse | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | molefan | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | Nanook | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | Zeriel | Parzival | roxis | peekercpa | Zeriel | peekercpa | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | Pollux Oil | | Mr. Special Ed | brokentree | roxis | MiteyMouse | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | Sachertorte | Nanook | Koldanar | Hal Briston | shaggy | Koldanar | Parzival | shaggy | sinjin | | Parzival | | TDPatriots | MiteyMouse | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | Zeriel | MiteyMouse | crazypunker | brokentree |
Totals: Votee | Total | Voters (#1) | Voters (#2) | Voters (#3) | Zeriel | 33 (33) | Aubby, brokentree, Hal Briston, KidVermicious, Merestil Haye, misterblocky, MiteyMouse, peekercpa | Mr. Special Ed, roxis, TDPatriots | molefan, Nanook, Parzival | MiteyMouse | 32 (32) | Kat, molefan, Mr. Special Ed, Nanook, roxis, TDPatriots, Zeriel | brokentree, Hal Briston, Merestil Haye | Aubby, KidVermicious, misterblocky, MiteyMouse, peekercpa | Mr. Special Ed | 22 (20) | | Aubby, KidVermicious, misterblocky, MiteyMouse, molefan, Nanook, peekercpa, Pollux Oil | brokentree, Hal Briston, Merestil Haye, Mr. Special Ed, roxis, TDPatriots | Parzival | 7 (2) | crazypunker | shaggy, sinjin | | Koldanar | 5 (5) | shaggy | Sachertorte | | crazypunker | 5 (2) | Hoopy Frood | Zeriel | | Nanook | 3 (3) | Sachertorte | | | roxis | 3 (3) | Parzival | | | brokentree | 2 (1) | | | Pollux Oil, Zeriel | Aubby | 2 (2) | | Kat | | peekercpa | 2 (2) | | Parzival | | shaggy | 1 (1) | | | shaggy | molefan | 1 (1) | | | Kat | Hal Briston | 1 (1) | | | Sachertorte |
Not Voting: Koldanar, Rysto
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 21:43:26 GMT -5
Post by shaggy on Jan 29, 2009 21:43:26 GMT -5
Well after catching up, I am going to: unvote all VOTE #1 zeriel 1: You took it apon your self to out everyone, even though they wanted to, it does not seem to be team playing to go ahead with out everyone fully agreed to do so. 2: You only voted mitey even though you are supose to not know if ed is scum or town eigther. This seems odd to only vote the one, why are you so sure? ? 3: Your strongest and almost only argument is her magic bagging but first what are you doing with your power? oh yeah that is right magic bagging....guilty of the same thing you are trying to get us to lynch her on!!!!!! Seconed she came out to you guys as a investigator type role and would know who is the SCUM on day 2. So to me the only one who would want to come out and reveal knowing this would be the SCUM for they would be scared that she picks the right one tonight and finds out you are SCUM. Therefore by revealing to the town now and getting her lynched, you can save your self for a day or 2 longer. Where as the other town person maybe skeptical of her and her suposed role but I think they would be willing to go along with it, and wait till day 2. Possible reason for taking it on your self to out the masons maybe? ? 4: your PM is too similar to the generic PM, to me it looks like you just cut and pasted it, for yours. VOTE #2 koldanar Same reasons as before, but add, that after I voted 1, I have seen one post and still nothing but static/fluff VOTE #3 shaggy To complete my votes
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 22:01:56 GMT -5
Post by Rysto on Jan 29, 2009 22:01:56 GMT -5
2: You only voted mitey even though you are supose to not know if ed is scum or town eigther. This seems odd to only vote the one, why are you so sure? ? This from somebody who's voting for exactly one of the three? 1. Vote Mitey 2. Vote shaggy 3. Vote Rysto
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 22:03:29 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Jan 29, 2009 22:03:29 GMT -5
Note to all voting Kodanar, he is subbing out. See the meta-posting thread.
|
|
Trepa Mayfield
FGM
Does Not Follow Directions
The only kind of panda worth preserving.
Posts: 989
[ Exalt | Smite ]
Karma:
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 22:05:36 GMT -5
Post by Trepa Mayfield on Jan 29, 2009 22:05:36 GMT -5
Going to bed now. Just putting up a vote count first. Votes: Player | Vote 1 | Vote 2 | Vote 3 | Aubby | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | brokentree | Zeriel | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | crazypunker | Parzival | | | Hal Briston | Zeriel | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | Hoopy Frood | crazypunker | | | Kat | MiteyMouse | Aubby | molefan | KidVermicious | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | Merestil Haye | Zeriel | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | misterblocky | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | MiteyMouse | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | molefan | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | Nanook | MiteyMouse | Mr. Special Ed | Zeriel | Parzival | roxis | peekercpa | Zeriel | peekercpa | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | MiteyMouse | Pollux Oil | | Mr. Special Ed | brokentree | roxis | MiteyMouse | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | Rysto | MiteyMouse | shaggy | Rysto | Sachertorte | Nanook | Koldanar | Hal Briston | shaggy | Zeriel | Koldanar | shaggy | sinjin | | Parzival | | TDPatriots | MiteyMouse | Zeriel | Mr. Special Ed | Zeriel | MiteyMouse | crazypunker | brokentree |
Totals: Votee | Total | Voters (#1) | Voters (#2) | Voters (#3) | Zeriel | 36 (36) | Aubby, brokentree, Hal Briston, KidVermicious, Merestil Haye, misterblocky, MiteyMouse, peekercpa, shaggy | Mr. Special Ed, roxis, TDPatriots | molefan, Nanook, Parzival | MiteyMouse | 35 (35) | Kat, molefan, Mr. Special Ed, Nanook, roxis, Rysto, TDPatriots, Zeriel | brokentree, Hal Briston, Merestil Haye | Aubby, KidVermicious, misterblocky, MiteyMouse, peekercpa | Mr. Special Ed | 22 (20) | | Aubby, KidVermicious, misterblocky, MiteyMouse, molefan, Nanook, peekercpa, Pollux Oil | brokentree, Hal Briston, Merestil Haye, Mr. Special Ed, roxis, TDPatriots | crazypunker | 5 (2) | Hoopy Frood | Zeriel | | Parzival | 5 (0) | crazypunker | sinjin | | Koldanar | 4 (4) | | Sachertorte, shaggy | | shaggy | 3 (3) | | Rysto | shaggy | Nanook | 3 (3) | Sachertorte | | | roxis | 3 (3) | Parzival | | | brokentree | 2 (1) | | | Pollux Oil, Zeriel | peekercpa | 2 (2) | | Parzival | | Aubby | 2 (2) | | Kat | | Hal Briston | 1 (1) | | | Sachertorte | Rysto | 1 (1) | | | Rysto | molefan | 1 (1) | | | Kat |
Not Voting: Koldanar
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 22:10:00 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Jan 29, 2009 22:10:00 GMT -5
Has the generic mason pm been posted? If so I must have missed it. I was on and off the intra-webs today and read bit by bit instead of following along real time or reading the whole thing in one setting. Link to the generic mason pm posted in this thread please.
|
|
Gir!
FGM
EVIL Demon Goddess Mod
What? Kat is sweet and innocent!
Posts: 691
[ Exalt | Smite ]
Karma:
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 22:11:37 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Jan 29, 2009 22:11:37 GMT -5
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 22:12:24 GMT -5
Post by sinjin on Jan 29, 2009 22:12:24 GMT -5
Never mind, I just discovered the search function on this board. DOH
|
|
Gir!
FGM
EVIL Demon Goddess Mod
What? Kat is sweet and innocent!
Posts: 691
[ Exalt | Smite ]
Karma:
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 22:13:52 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Jan 29, 2009 22:13:52 GMT -5
Oh, and I'm currently happy with my votes.
I'd like to ask, though: shaggy, you don't have a third person who even pings you enough to FOS them into vote #3?
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 22:20:05 GMT -5
Post by The Real FCOD on Jan 29, 2009 22:20:05 GMT -5
Attention: I'd like to remind everyone that shaggy's vote for Zeriel put him at 36 points and triggered a 12 hour countdown. Therefore, Day One will end at 9:43am tomorrow, Eastern Time, which is about 11 and a half hours from now.
--FCOD
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 22:26:46 GMT -5
Post by MiteyMouse on Jan 29, 2009 22:26:46 GMT -5
What just jumped out at me is the phrasing of point 1. "You are a mason. The other masons are"... vs. "You are a mason. The masons are"... Interestingly...this is the generic mason PM we were provided. Bolding is mine: Yeah Zer...my PM is different from the generic PM that was posted. I don't know why Ped made mine different but, he did. Funny how you are pointing this out considering that your PM is exactly the generic PM that was posted on the Mason board. Just to let everyone know, I'm ok if you need to kill me...it will bring info to you and that is why I turned around and said that I was ok with coming out. If you choose me though look back at the Mason stuff as, it may be telling after the first lynch. On a personal note as well, I have not played well this game and was rash with hinting at my role and I will understand if I'm the first to go.
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 22:42:49 GMT -5
Post by Zeriel on Jan 29, 2009 22:42:49 GMT -5
If it makes any difference to anyone, I'm a 50% vig whose power gets nerfed if I'm high in the voting. And I can't vig my fellow masons, otherwise I would've kept my mouth shut and just iced Mitey myself. So unless you guys trust me enough to unvote me with the quickness, I'm not going to be able to vig anyone tonight.
If I can, or if someone with a helping-hand power helps me, I'll announce who I'm targeting the first night in the event Mitey turns out to be town, in order to try to confirm myself.
Shaggy, that is a load of crap. I'm not diluting my Mitey vote with a random Special Ed one when I'm not especially convinced he's scummy.
Mitey, mine is NOT exactly the generic one--I have a power, I have a name/alignment header, and I only have the other two of you yahoos listed in the opening paragraph. In exactly the same wording as Special Ed's. And he posted after me.
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 23:00:15 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Jan 29, 2009 23:00:15 GMT -5
Ugh.
I have no idea what to do.
The discrepancies between MiteyMouse's PM and the other two mason's PM are large and in my face. However I feel like MiteyMouse's actions could be considered pro-town. And if a scum was to craft a fake PM and they had the template of a mason PM, I think they would copy it...Ugh. I do think that Ed is the least scummy of the masons.
Past experience tells me not to rely on the PM context. I mean, in zeriel's PM Town was capitalized and Ed's PM town is lowercase. Is that a discrepancy worth talking about?
Dammit dammit dammit.
2. Vote Mr. Special Ed
2. Vote shaggy
First off I'm voting shaggy for the same reason Rysto outlined. One of his reasons for voting zeriel doesn't make sense to me.
Then....sigh....ugh.
1. Vote MiteyMouse
The PM discrepancy could be very important. But I think what's sealing it for me is people that I find suspicious (brokentree, shaggy, aubby has also pinged me a little bit) are putting Zeriel up as their firsts. Since it's basically become Mitey vs. zeriel for toDay's lynch, I feel like unless Ed is doing an amazing job as scum that one of Mitey/zeriel is scum, and one the scum are hard pushing to get a mislynch out of. Thus since people I find suspicious are on zeriel, I'll go with MiteyMouse.
Also, I still don't understand why zeriel couldn't use his power on the other masons but MiteyMouse could. Actually, the more I think about it I feel like a pro-town investigative mason kind of defeats the purpose of having a scum mason in the first place, too. Especially if Mitey can just track the other masons.
Okay I'm sticking to that.
Then on preview...ugh, zeriel's claim is made of stinky fish to me. 50% Vig rate is semi-confirmable but with the caveat we can't vote for him. To confirm is ability we'd have to wait until at least Day Three, and even then it only has a 50% rate of succeeding. Plus, two vigs between roxis and Zeriel, even if one is 50% and one you have to wait every three Daysish?
ARGH!
I'm going to go watch some Tivoed NCIS and Fringe and mull over this.
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 23:07:24 GMT -5
Post by Rysto on Jan 29, 2009 23:07:24 GMT -5
Then on preview...ugh, zeriel's claim is made of stinky fish to me. 50% Vig rate is semi-confirmable but with the caveat we can't vote for him. To confirm is ability we'd have to wait until at least Day Three, and even then it only has a 50% rate of succeeding. Plus, two vigs between roxis and Zeriel, even if one is 50% and one you have to wait every three Daysish? Here's a thought: Zeriel targets Mitey, and Parzival targets Zeriel. If Mitey is killed and is scum we confirm both of them. If Mitey is not killed, well, we don't learn too much.
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 23:09:16 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on Jan 29, 2009 23:09:16 GMT -5
Here's a thought: Zeriel targets Mitey, and Parzival targets Zeriel. If Mitey is killed and is scum we confirm both of them. If Mitey is not killed, well, we don't learn too much. Then who do we lynch toDay? Any scum want to volunteer so this plan can go off without a hitch? ;D
|
|
Gir!
FGM
EVIL Demon Goddess Mod
What? Kat is sweet and innocent!
Posts: 691
[ Exalt | Smite ]
Karma:
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 23:19:19 GMT -5
Post by Gir! on Jan 29, 2009 23:19:19 GMT -5
We could lynch Bob the Tomato, and his trusty sidekick, Bacon.
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 23:30:25 GMT -5
Post by Zeriel on Jan 29, 2009 23:30:25 GMT -5
Then on preview...ugh, zeriel's claim is made of stinky fish to me. 50% Vig rate is semi-confirmable but with the caveat we can't vote for him. To confirm is ability we'd have to wait until at least Day Three, and even then it only has a 50% rate of succeeding. Plus, two vigs between roxis and Zeriel, even if one is 50% and one you have to wait every three Daysish? Here's a thought: Zeriel targets Mitey, and Parzival targets Zeriel. If Mitey is killed and is scum we confirm both of them. If Mitey is not killed, well, we don't learn too much. I've already been told I can't target my fellow masons, it will autofail. Given that the scum mason is a mason nonetheless I'd rather not try this plan.
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 23:40:05 GMT -5
Post by Rysto on Jan 29, 2009 23:40:05 GMT -5
But Parzival claims that he makes his target more powerful. He might be able to get you around that autofail condition.
|
|
|
Day 1
Jan 29, 2009 23:41:21 GMT -5
Post by Zeriel on Jan 29, 2009 23:41:21 GMT -5
Frankly I was hoping he'd have enough juice to get me past the 50%+autofail if in 1st or 2nd runner-up.
|
|