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May 4, 2009 22:20:24 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on May 4, 2009 22:20:24 GMT -5
I believe the last mason chain we saw was Evil Dead. In that game, a pressured Mason claimed, and because none of them knew how many total Masons there were, they were forced to *all* claim, to keep the scum from hiding in the chain.
The risk is less if our current Masons know how many they are... in fact, I think our hiding Groupies should only consider coming out if/when Pollux is NK'd. If scum want to trade one of them for a Groupie, that's downright neighborly of them.
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May 4, 2009 22:34:15 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on May 4, 2009 22:34:15 GMT -5
I'd still like to see IS address his tactic switch (or if he's done so and I missed it, he can link to the post). Unvote: paul As I said earlier, Roosh asked me what I'd like to discuss and I responded with a list of options. That was a mistake and I probably should have called them topics or something. It wasn't meant to be something set in stone. Almost Human pointed out a very obvious one that I had left out. And I decided that her's seemed like the best option.
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May 4, 2009 22:44:00 GMT -5
Post by Pleonast on May 4, 2009 22:44:00 GMT -5
On the other hand you suggest we should keep you around to end game because you're night-kill resistant. I have not suggested that. I've stated that a cost to the Town is not keeping me around to the end, but I have not suggested we actually do that. When exactly do you think we should lynch you by the way? ToDay, ToMorrow, just before lynch or lose? Day Two is best, Day Three at the latest. I am town-aligned, but I cannot confirm the alignment of the other groupies. There was no indication given to me that I should be suspicious of the other groupies, but my certainty of their alignment was absent from my role PM, so I figured it best not to make a fatal assumption. I know the total number of groupies, but I'm not planning on divulging it in case we are the mason group. Given that your role is useless, as far as you've claimed, do you think it's useful to quote your pm? If the groupies have no powers other than naming each other in a chain, then I don't see why they shouldn't chain-claim now. They can't even confirm each other's alignment. There may be problems with them claiming. Perhaps other roles affect groupies. Perhaps groupies are the "vanilla Town" players (with maybe one scum hidden among them). In either case, revealing all of them gives scum a bigger advantage, since then they'll know precisely which players are not groupies. Thus, I think it's important for Pollux to make a full pm claim. Or, if he thinks he shouldn't, justify why not. I'm keeping my vote on him for now, until he's either potentially confirmable or claims a power that makes him worth keeping alive.
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May 4, 2009 23:09:03 GMT -5
Post by Inner Stickler on May 4, 2009 23:09:03 GMT -5
Inner Stickler, I have not addressed before. My feelings in this direction are vague and not well formed yet. I get a lurker vibe. I found the postings to be riding the line between substantive and useless. I didn't like the vote for paul, though I can't recall why just now. I should probably delete this paragraph, but I'm not going to. Feel free to hold my feet to the fire tomorrow morning (tomorrow, not Tomorrow). But I'm not voting for Inner Stickler; I'd join that bandwagon though if others want to go that way too. How very non-specific of you. Well, it's true. I have been lurking more than I like. I haven't yet found a board style I like and I can't figure out how to change the number of posts per page. Once I've figured those out then I'll be a much happier camper. Happy Inner Stickler posts much more than Pissy Inner Stickler. When you come back with actual criticisms and not gut feelings, I'll be happy to discuss that with you.
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May 4, 2009 23:26:24 GMT -5
Post by Pollux Oil on May 4, 2009 23:26:24 GMT -5
Okay here are the things I wanted to respond to. Pollux, what exactly is your stance on Pleonast? Lynch Pleonast Today? Lynch Pleonast Tomorrow? Don't Lynch Pleonast? Okay, IF we are to take Pleonast's claim at face value, then he's currently town. Which means lynching him is a mislynch. He's not recruited yet, so he counts as a pro-town number. I don't think we should lynch him any time soon. If he starts acting oddly, which it seems like he would considering his supposed views on the recruitment and his supposed acting in a pro-Town manner, we lynch him. Otherwise, just leave him the hell alone because he's a number in favor of town. But he could be third-party that gets recruited to scum. Or town that gets recruited to third-party. We have no idea whether his claim is full on face value or not, thus it's a big glass of WiFoM. This paragraph contradicts itself all over the place. All over the place. You say: Discussion of Pleo will only lead to "Yes or No", which seems to imply that you think that Discussion of Pleo isn't actually discussion. But then you say: Discussion begets discussion and go on to list all sorts of reason discussion is good for Town. So which is it? I think you misread/misinterpreted my point. The point I was trying to make was sachertorte seemed to think that all we'd get from discussing Pleonast today was a "yes or no" as to whether we should lynch him, and I was trying to make the point that we'd get much more info than just that. I wasn't contradicting myself. I'm really confused, because I see further contradiction here: you didn't think Pleo was worth caring about, but you didn't offer another topic to discuss toDay, and now you're accusing Sachertorte of doing exactly what you did? What? I thought Pleonast's claim was a null tell, and WiFoM at best. But I stil thought other people should continue weighing in on it, which would create other discussion. And why would I offer another discussion topic? I've been the one arguing FOR people to continue talking about Pleonast. I really wish I could phrase this better because I think people are missing what I see as the difference between me and sachertorte. Me: Think's Pleo's claim is a null tell, but still wants people to talk about it. Sach: Wants to lynch Pleo tomorrow, and move discussion about him until tomorrow as well. I don't think I can get any clearer than that. This response from Pollux really bothers me. It seems to be setting up a defense against me being lynched. I can't see a pro-Town reason for doing that, unless he has specific information about my situation that he's not revealing. This should cover everybody that was wondering about my "defense" of Pleo. Which, I suppose it is. I honestly don't get why we should take your word that we should lynch you eventually, just because you've told us to. It boggles my mind why everybody would just jump and go "Hmmm, he told us he needs to be lynched, welp, let's just lynch him then" without thinking it through. Sure, the "he could be a jester" thing was thrown out, but what about the following? You all think Pleonast is Dr. Horrible. What if he's Penny and him being lynched sets up Dr. Horrible going to the scum side? What if he's a scum bomb? I mean, there are plenty of reasons to not lynch somebody just because they say they should be lynched, and considering you've given us vague information on your situation, I feel like I have good reason to say "don't lynch Pleo just because he said so." Thus, I think it's important for Pollux to make a full pm claim. Or, if he thinks he shouldn't, justify why not. As you wish, Sir Pleo of the Nast. This'll be my last post because I'll be at work tomorrow until well past the deadline.
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May 4, 2009 23:43:00 GMT -5
Post by KidVermicious on May 4, 2009 23:43:00 GMT -5
Inner Stickler, I have not addressed before. My feelings in this direction are vague and not well formed yet. I get a lurker vibe. I found the postings to be riding the line between substantive and useless. I didn't like the vote for paul, though I can't recall why just now. I should probably delete this paragraph, but I'm not going to. Feel free to hold my feet to the fire tomorrow morning (tomorrow, not Tomorrow). But I'm not voting for Inner Stickler; I'd join that bandwagon though if others want to go that way too. How very non-specific of you. Well, it's true. I have been lurking more than I like. I haven't yet found a board style I like and I can't figure out how to change the number of posts per page. Once I've figured those out then I'll be a much happier camper. Happy Inner Stickler posts much more than Pissy Inner Stickler. When you come back with actual criticisms and not gut feelings, I'll be happy to discuss that with you. This can't fly. Vote: Inner Stickler .
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Post by RoOsh on May 5, 2009 0:06:44 GMT -5
Ro0sh:also playing pro-Town and giving no idea about his alignment. If he or sach aren't Night-killed in the first few Days, take a very very careful look at them. Gee thanks. Though, I've NEVER been Night Killed in any game I play (that I can recall- please correct me if I'm wrong, I'd like to know). I'm much easier for the Scum to lynch during the Day because I do tend to be a bit... reckless in my ideas/thoughts at times. But thanks for damning me with your "If he's still alive, lynch him!" ideas.... Also, I've caught up to the thread and I'll be responding to the posts bit by bit as I see 'em. Sorry my schedule is so busy, but :shrug: I'm trying to make time as I can. So get ready for a bunch of lil' posts. As my big ones tend not to get read....
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Post by Inner Stickler on May 5, 2009 0:06:58 GMT -5
H This can't fly. Vote: Inner Stickler Lots of things can't fly. Would you like to be more specific?
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Post by Inner Stickler on May 5, 2009 0:08:30 GMT -5
Gahh. [ This can't fly. Vote: Inner Stickler. Both quotes are bleached.
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Post by RoOsh on May 5, 2009 0:18:29 GMT -5
I'm re-reading, so I'm going to respond to stuff as I (re)encounter them. In games I've played with Recruitment, it's always the SCUM had to go out and FIND the players to recruit. Roosh actually goes on quite a bit longer (shocker!), but this is the central point I'll address. FCoD stated explicitly that this game has a mechanism that 'some might consider to be recruitment.' That says to me that the recruitment mechanism will not follow the same pattern or rules as in previous games. ~~~~~SNIP~~~~~~~ Let's assume that the ELE can actively recruit once. Let's also assume that Pleonast is not the only player who is susceptible to recruitment. In this case, Pleonast's claim is tantamount to giving the Scum Two recruitments in that Town will 'need*' to kill both Pleonast and whoever this other recruited being is. * We don't strictly need to lynch a Town Pleonast, but we can't know this! See my opinion is that this isn't like "Normal Recruitment" in the sense that in normal recruitment, scum can pick almost ANY player at will (usually a non-power role though), and can recruit them. This is the major reasoning why some players HATE recruitment (I want to stay storyteller, but it might have been you? I don't know, but I know there's someone who just hates the idea of switching sides and being forced to lose if they're recruited at the very end, and they've been vocal about it in the past). So yeah, that's why recruitment tends NOT to be used, because of that instant "You lose" spiteful ending that a recruiter could use vs. someone. My thoughts are that this Game Color/Cannon EASILY allows a mechanism to bypass that though. If I had to design recruitment to bypass this mechanism, it'd be this idea, and it's been done similarly in the Xmen Game, though to a lesser extent. If the main problem is players hate the idea that anyone could be FORCED to switch sides, you eliminate that idea, and make it specific. Make a role that can be recruited, and KNOWS it can be recruited from the start, but make it still playable and fun. 3rd Party Roles are best for this. That way you can have "a mechanism similar to recruitment" but it's not recruitment carte blanche. It's a few roles predestined to possibly be recruited- and in the DHSAB it's very easy to see how to do that- with the way the whole ELE recruiting works in that storyline, and how the groupies switched sides (which i'm thinking may be an INTERESTING thing to do... especially since PISS has pointed out that he doesn't know the alignment of the other groupies). But yeah- Sach- my thinking towards "a mech. similar to recruitment is that basically you have fixed recruitable roles rather than ANYONE can be recruited, because that fixes the primary complaint that I remember players saying why recruitment kinda sucks.
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Post by RoOsh on May 5, 2009 0:23:46 GMT -5
I know a lot of this has already come up but bear with me: ~Massive Bitchslap vs. Sister Coyote~vote Sister CI had to say AH. This post of yours had me going "wow" as it was a REALLY REALLY well done argument vs. Sister C, but at first it came outta left field for me, just cuz... damn. I liked it, but I was immediately was suspicious of you for it. Because it seemed opportunistic. At the time you made it, Polluxo had been getting the heat. My gut instinct was that you were trying to save a fellow scum teammate perhaps by throwing this one out there. Cuz it seemed really well done. This post was going to make me consider voting for pollux, and when if he came up scum give a long hard look at you too then. However, now Pollux has claimed to own Captain Hammer's Sweater Vests, so that threw that idea out the window. Instead, all it's made me do is go, well... maybe you're onto something. I'll have to think about this post again in a new light w/o thinking of you as having the ulterior motive of trying to save Pollux Saves Christmas.
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Post by RoOsh on May 5, 2009 0:29:08 GMT -5
It seems there are three theories about you: 1) The bad guys can recruit you, thus we should lynch you, post-haste (I'm in this group in case you're wondering). 2) The good guys can recruit you, thus we should keep you alive (Roosh). 3) You're lying about being night kill resistant and we should let the vig take you out (sacher). WHOA WHOA WHOA! Where did this come from? Just seeing my name attached to that theory was kinda a from me. As I don't recall saying that Pleonast could be recruited by Good guys. My main ideas have been on recruitment in general in the sense of 3rd party roles can become recruited. I never assigned roles to the recruiters themselves, and I'm just curious as to where this came from. Either you're misinterpreting me, or something's weird's going on. Also, I fall behind Stance #3 as it comes to the Night Resistance thing. But I certainly do NOT fall into the Group #2 group, and I don't like you putting me there. I DO NOT Advocate keeping Pleonast alive indefinitely, maybe keep him around for TONIGHT but that's because I was fine with the tabling the discussion until tomorrow issue. FOS on Sinjin until I get a clarification of this one. Not Cool at all.
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Post by RoOsh on May 5, 2009 0:32:00 GMT -5
So PSS you're claiming you're a groupy who aligns with town? And that you know of one other groupy but there are other groupies out there but you don't know their alignments. But you, personally, feel mainly vanilla. So what? You're a masonry of one? Two? Many? But you all might not have the same alignment? Come again please. Also, this feel really smudgy, not helping yourself there, Sinjin. I see where you're going with this post, but it just came across as really... biased if you will. Like you could have just asked him if he knew the other groupie's alignments rather than going into the whole "personally, feel mainly vanilla" business. Note to self: Shoulda combined this to the last post. Balls as they say.
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Post by RoOsh on May 5, 2009 0:36:40 GMT -5
How very non-specific of you. Well, it's true. I have been lurking more than I like. I haven't yet found a board style I like and I can't figure out how to change the number of posts per page. Once I've figured those out then I'll be a much happier camper. Happy Inner Stickler posts much more than Pissy Inner Stickler. When you come back with actual criticisms and not gut feelings, I'll be happy to discuss that with you. This can't fly. . I don't like this either, and it bugged me too but I don't think it's worth a vote because I see it more as lazy than scummy. But giving shitty out of game reasons for DELIBERATELY lurking really isn't cool. You're not just a single player- if you're Town, you're playing for a TEAM. Just because you don't like the way your board shows up on your computer, doesn't give you an excuse to deliberately lurk (and hurt whatever team you're on) and also deflect questions by pouting about it and using that as an excuse to dodge questioning. That's my opinions on the matter.
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Post by Inner Stickler on May 5, 2009 0:48:41 GMT -5
You're not just a single player- if you're Town, you're playing for a TEAM. Just because you don't like the way your board shows up on your computer, doesn't give you an excuse to deliberately lurk (and hurt whatever team you're on) and also deflect questions by pouting about it and using that as an excuse to dodge questioning. That's my opinions on the matter. Thank you, Roosh. I will work on that, then. What questions have I deflected? Neither KidV nor sachertorte actually bothered to ask any.
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Post by RoOsh on May 5, 2009 1:05:36 GMT -5
Unvote Kid Vermicious.
Now then... who to vote for. Honestly, when I started reading I was thinking about Pollux, only because I feel he's too smart to let that line about PMing the mod go by. I don't see him "accidentally" soft claiming, unless it was something that he honestly felt he was totally covered by (ie: wasn't scummy at all). So I was leaning towards him trying to pretend to be a power role and all. But with his claim... alight, fine. I don't know if I fully believe him, but I can see how it explains his questions to the Mod Issue. And I can wait until other Groupies show up to worry about if the Groupies are clean or not. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyways, so that's out. Also, I'm suspicious of Sinjin. I want to hear from here though, because I DO NOT recall saying that Pleonast should live so that the Town can recruit him. That one post just bugs me quite a bit. But that's all I have to go on right now for that one. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was as earlier also suspicious of AH for her opportune busting of SC because it seemed to be maybe protecting Pollux, but I think that's probably not the case, unless AH was a groupie and being REALLY not smart about it. So yeah, her issues about Sister Coyote's problems w/ Pollux's Joke Vote did seem kinda opportune (especially now, but that's hindsight). The whole Joke vote thing was just a disaster. And then again going back to the Pollux vote was interesting. If you were the 3rd vote, oh man! But yeah, I really don't like your 2nd vote against pollux cuz the reasoning are not really there. That depends. What kind of detail are you going to give us as to why you think your lynching would be beneficial for Town? I mean, I don't follow what Pleo's saying at all (I really don't - I'm so confused), but at least he has given reasons both why we should lynch him and why we should wait a Day. -Your first reasoning appears to be you literally interpreting that Pollux is claiming that he needs to be lynched today (which I'm hoping you're just being snarky about, though your "I'm so confused!" doesn't help me feel better about that). -Your second point vs. him is the issue of his Soft Claiming. That one's fine by me. No issues with you calling him out on that. I would too. - Pollux quote snipped- This paragraph contradicts itself all over the place. All over the place. You say: Discussion of Pleo will only lead to "Yes or No", which seems to imply that you think that Discussion of Pleo isn't actually discussion. But then you say: Discussion begets discussion and go on to list all sorts of reason discussion is good for Town. So which is it? I'm really confused, because I see further contradiction here: you didn't think Pleo was worth caring about, but you didn't offer another topic to discuss toDay, and now you're accusing Sachertorte of doing exactly what you did? What? But then this stuff is just a mess. I dunno if it's just mean, but I get what the whole Pollux vs. Sach issue was there, and I think both of them are partly right. Though Sach's ideas of Tabling Pleo is totally not working though, but we've BEEN having discussions as Pollux was hoping, so all's good and well on that front. But in that all, your interpretation SisC of the ideas just... seems like a stretch. Pollux is all for discussion- he wants to discuss Pleo right NOW (today) while we don't have any other data to look at, and finds Sach suspicious for wanting to discuss Pleo TOMMORROW when there may be new data. That's pretty much it. All of your questioning about Pollux's contradictions.... I'm not really seeing it at all, and I think it's kinda a stretch. So I'm going to go with a Vote Sister Coyote as most suspicious person up here for toDay. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Also, Sach. I don't trust you right now because I want to trust you. You're giving me a very Storyteller vibe right now. And I don't like that. I like your ideas, but whenever I find myself wanting to trust someone, I find myself wondering why. So yeah, you're on the shit list. I say this just in case (if Pleo gets his wish) and I die toNight. I've got classes and then work tommorrow from 12pm to pretty much midnight. So I'll be missing the end of the Day that's kinda why I've been trying to say EVERYTHING i can before the Day ends. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sorry about the wordiness. But yeah. Still don't trust pleo. Think we should DEFINITELY consider discussing him further tomorrow, and I'm of the mind that he's lying about his Resistance abilities- because I totally pulled that shit in Firefly Mafia. So I know it works But yeah- if you've actually GOT the powers, you don't need to wave your magic bag and reveal it- unless you're trying to distract the crowd from something or WIFOMING the others. So yeah, I'm definitely suspicious of your magic bag. ;D
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Post by RoOsh on May 5, 2009 1:10:37 GMT -5
Thank you, Roosh. I will work on that, then. What questions have I deflected? Neither KidV nor sachertorte actually bothered to ask any. Fair enough. It's just when Sach criticizes you for lurking, and then you admit you've been deliberately lurking- it does kinda blow your credibility out of the water. Sorry for being so harsh in the last post, I just wanted to get my feelings out there for ya though. S'cool- just a game, just some of us feel very competitive about it. I know when I read it I was just irked, so yeah- that didn't help your case at all because it just seemed like "what.The.Deuce?" sorta thing that I didn't even see what Sach had to say- I just didn't like your defense even if it was a defense to a non-question- that's kinda how bad it was. Just don't let it happen again. And if you've got problems, ask in the Meta Boards or general questions and we'll try to find a skin that works for you. We ARE playing a game and all in HERE, but we ARE a community out there too, ya know? We'll try to help you w/ the out of game issues- just don't let it affect the GAME issues. I know I hated checking this site when the Christmas Skins go up, but I wasn't playing in any games during that time period. But it did keep me just from READING the metaboards.
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Post by Inner Stickler on May 5, 2009 1:21:38 GMT -5
Alright, Roosh, we're cool. Why do you care about the precise nature of that power of mine? This is an excellent question. Despite being irritated by KidV's vote and run, I agree that this is a good question. Town doesn't need to know who the power roles are. Just alignments. Why are you fishing so hard for Pleo's role, Kat?
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Post by Merestil Haye on May 5, 2009 3:45:40 GMT -5
Damn. This sounds like a possible combination of those circular-confirming Masons (what game was that in?) and the SSB Masons. Worse, even, since at least in SSB, the Masons knew for sure that one Mason was scum. The circular Mason group was in Hawkeyeop's SDMB themed game on the Dope (where else?) Even then, each Charter Member knew that one other Charter Member was Town.
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Post by Almost Human on May 5, 2009 4:22:56 GMT -5
Unvote Kid Vermicious.
I was as earlier also suspicious of AH for her opportune busting of SC because it seemed to be maybe protecting Pollux, but I think that's probably not the case, unless AH was a groupie and being REALLY not smart about it. (snipped to all buggery) Holds hand up to being REALLY not smart about it. I may as well come out, as scum are going to figure me out anyway at this point. I do do the weird stuff. For those who haven't seen DH (shame on you) that means I'm also a groupie. Another reason I'm coming out now is that I'm groupie #2 and know about groupie #1 Pollux but not the name of any other groupie/s. Which is odd as I was expecting Pollux to know a groupie other than me so we'd have this whole daisy chain thing going on. My pm's identical to Pollux's but here you go anyway (names and numbers removed) So this means any other groupie's can't be confirmed by PSS or myself. Unless FCOD screwed up the #s on the pms which seems unlikely as he's such an awesome mod or PSS just figured it was more sensible for me to confirm him as he'd figured out who I was, leaving anyone else safe. On preview he could also have said he knew #2 to obscure how many of us there are. I dunno. As you can see there's nothing in the pm to suggest one of us could be scum or recruitable. From the games I've played I'd have expected there to be some sort of hint if we couldn't trust each other and until I hear otherwise I'm going to assume we're all town. Meh, maybe I shouldn't have claimed but after PSS did I'm pretty sure it was clear to a lot of people who I was.
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Post by Total Ullz on May 5, 2009 7:17:56 GMT -5
I'd still like to see IS address his tactic switch (or if he's done so and I missed it, he can link to the post). Unvote: paul [/color] As I said earlier, Roosh asked me what I'd like to discuss and I responded with a list of options. That was a mistake and I probably should have called them topics or something. It wasn't meant to be something set in stone. Almost Human pointed out a very obvious one that I had left out. And I decided that her's seemed like the best option. [/quote] I understand the part of your list and what you meant when listing it. But I'm not sure I understand why your reasons for the list ends up with your unvoting Paul.
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Post by sinjin on May 5, 2009 7:33:47 GMT -5
Well dang it Roosh you are correct. I thought for sure it was you who brought up the possibility that Dr. H might be a PFK who could be recruited by either town or scum. Now I have to go back and read the entire thread and find out who actually suggested that. The only thing I can say in my defense is that I have a tendency to skim your posts. Bygones.
And my post to PSS was not meant to be smudgy. I'm just a wee bit frustrated with convoluted claims that lead to more questions rather than less.
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Post by Total Ullz on May 5, 2009 7:35:13 GMT -5
The only thing I can say in my defense is that I have a tendency to skim your posts. ;D You call that a defense??
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Post by sachertorte on May 5, 2009 7:45:01 GMT -5
If G2 dies, Pollux will be able to say, "yup that was G2" And nothing will have been confirmed at all. Clarification: There is weak confirmation in the role claim. If Groupie #2 dies and is shown to be town then there is evidence that Groupie #1 is also Town and Pollux, having claimed Groupie #1 prior to the revelation that Groupie #2 exists and is Town is likely to be Town as well.
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Post by sachertorte on May 5, 2009 7:49:41 GMT -5
If the groupies have no powers other than naming each other in a chain, then I don't see why they shouldn't chain-claim now. They can't even confirm each other's alignment. I don't believe this is the case, though I don't blame you for thinking this is the case (I thought Pollux said this too, so I had to read his post twice). Pollux CAN confirm Townness of Groupie #2 Pollux can NOT confirm alignment of Groupie #3 A PM posting might alleviate confusion; I'd give leeway for redacting sensitive information should some exist though.
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Post by sinjin on May 5, 2009 7:56:59 GMT -5
A PM posting might alleviate confusion; I'd give leeway for redacting sensitive information should some exist though. Read up there's two of them.
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Post by sachertorte on May 5, 2009 7:57:35 GMT -5
This'll be my last post because I'll be at work tomorrow until well past the deadline. Grr. This is a terrible role PM. Pleonast was right. The PM says nothing about the alignment of Groupie #2. Honestly, it makes zero sense to have these roles and have them be anything other than Town, but FCOD didn't say that. The role, as written is useless. The role as intended is locked up inside the mod's head. Terrible role. I take it Pollux was asking FCOD about the alignment of Groupie #2 as was told nothing? Pollux never said what he was asking FCOD. Grrr.
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Post by The Real FCOD on May 5, 2009 8:07:27 GMT -5
6 hours left vote count:
Sister Coyote (5) - zlw, Paul, Almost Human, Kat!, Roosh Pollux (3) - Pleonast, Sister Coyote, Special Ed Inner Stickler (2) - Natlaw, KidVermicious Paul (1) - NAF1138 sachertorte (1) - Pollux Natlaw (1) - sinjin
--FCOD
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Post by sachertorte on May 5, 2009 8:07:49 GMT -5
I think many people skim Roosh's posts. I'm pretty sure people skim my posts too. I've been trying to be less wordy to combat this.
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Post by sachertorte on May 5, 2009 8:12:32 GMT -5
Another reason I'm coming out now is that I'm groupie #2 and know about groupie #1 Pollux but not the name of any other groupie/s. Weird. Not what I was expecting, but kind of fits into the lack of explicit statement that the groupies are Town. Irritating though. Almost Human, have you asked FCOD for clarification on your role? - Ask specifically if knowing that Pollux is Groupie #1 means that Pollux is the same alignment as you (Town). - Ask specifically if all Groupies are the same alignment as you (Town).
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