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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 19, 2009 19:03:57 GMT -5
FCOD, would you be willing to extend an invitation to Sachertorte to take over Boozy's role instead of modkilling him? Or has Sach already been spoiled? Have you checked for anyone else interested in subbing in? I noticed that Bufftabby isn't on the Playerlist... you could try her now that her BB is fixed. Did you miss this FCOD?
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Post by KidVermicious on May 19, 2009 19:04:36 GMT -5
Dude, when Peeker goes off the hook we vote for him. You're off the hook, and I'm voting for you. When you start acting Town, I'll remove my vote.
Seriously? Watching Pleo? If he was scum, and he may very well be, they'd hardly be picking him to do a NK. Makes for a good "look what I did", though.
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 19, 2009 19:09:43 GMT -5
ZLW.... wtf are you talking.... you sound like Peeker and Meeko's bastard son that was then abandoned only to be raised by Seeker....
Listen... why would you not just play it straight? If you are who you say you are (and I believe you) then you are a town power role. You should be trying to clarify things by being extremely clear about what stance you are taking and why.... being vague and leaving everything up to us is not helping at all. Besides that.... like we keep saying... going after a godfather now is not the best play possible. If you are wrong we lose a town when all real evidence pointed to her being town all along.
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Post by Almost Human on May 19, 2009 19:11:04 GMT -5
Which I'm posting because I don't get it. Why do you think story and NAF might make it to end game and why do you think it's important to point it out? If you're simply referring to a second Night with no NK then I kind of get it but otherwise I'm stumped. It was a joke - as in... "with no NKs maybe Story and NAF won't be NKed Night 2" because they often get NKed... just that: a joke! As for me not voting - I've already said I'll not vote Pleo. Since he seems to be the one lynched (yet again) and since I'm fine with that - I assumed you would read my non-vote as a: I'm fine with this lynch but will not be part of it - because I think me might have some ulterior motive for his desire to get votes. I did a w-o-w on NAF because I wanted to re-read and then I might as well do a w-o-w at the same time. Only reason I picked NAF was: He was the first reply on Day 1. Fair enough regarding the joking part. But Total, not voting is bad and gives us nothing to go on. I'm not saying you should vote Pleo but you should vote just to get your opinion down for the record. While I appreciate RL buggers us up sometimes it isn't really that hard to get a few sentences in, which you've proved by doing so today. And in other news.....I really wish I could write in such a manner that I could use phrases like "Part the Second" and words like "thusly" without sounding like a dick. But I think story's the only person who can pull that one off.
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 19, 2009 19:12:42 GMT -5
Dude, when Peeker goes off the hook we vote for him. You're off the hook, and I'm voting for you. When you start acting Town, I'll remove my vote. Seriously? Watching Pleo? If he was scum, and he may very well be, they'd hardly be picking him to do a NK. Makes for a good "look what I did", though. Where are you at Kid? When did we get on topic of watching Pleo... I feel like I missed something....
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Post by KidVermicious on May 19, 2009 19:13:00 GMT -5
Nah, he sounds like a dick too.
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Post by Almost Human on May 19, 2009 19:17:47 GMT -5
Nah, he sounds like a dick too. Sacrilege!
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Post by zlw on May 19, 2009 19:20:10 GMT -5
I had hoped watching Pleo would lead to finding out someway to kill Pleo. Make some sense to you or is that anti-town?
I look at people playing in two ways, they're smart or they're scum. If you cannot put things together in your head I don't believe you're dense, I believe you're scum.
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Post by zlw on May 19, 2009 19:24:44 GMT -5
Dude, when Peeker goes off the hook we vote for him. You're off the hook, and I'm voting for you. When you start acting Town, I'll remove my vote. Seriously? Watching Pleo? If he was scum, and he may very well be, they'd hardly be picking him to do a NK. Makes for a good "look what I did", though. Nice answering why you're allowing sinjin a free pass on how I can be scum since I posted my PM and IS hasn't disputed it. Exactly my point you talk about me being anti-town, I'm just sick of trying to fight against scum who have, with success, guided town into what they want done.
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Post by zlw on May 19, 2009 19:30:16 GMT -5
Sorry Paul, not ignoring you. And I understand what you mean and my sinjin vote is not leading to her demise it is merely pointing at who I find scummy because of actions. I am not allowing her to point out how scummy I am again, and again, and again (x12 more or so) without it going unanswered.
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Post by sinjin on May 19, 2009 19:30:22 GMT -5
If straight say is now a requirement peeker is in trouble in any game he is in. I said my piece on the situation, lynch me whatever. At this point I don't care, scum have succeeded since Day 1 on guiding the talking points were they want. And I refuse to jab with sinjin and now with you. OTOH I can just say this, why no attack on sinjin or anyone else, for questioning my claim when if it was fake IS would have said something? We had to have close to the same PM and while not exact I am 100 percent sure that he is legit or a real detective would have emerged. And if he is real and we have almost the same PMs?? You need to buy a vowel? 1+1=2 No matter how badly scum are trying to say it doesn't. Exactly right, she and others can get by with smudging me so bad I feel shit covered. That is scummy, scummy scummy scummy. Um, seriously dude, get a grip, we're playing mafia here. Once again, I'm not smudging you. I am questioning whether you are town or scum. I am not saying that both you and IS are scum. I am saying based on what I've read so far one of you may possibly be scum and personally I'm leaning towards you because of your actions. I have stated this forthright so there is no smudge. I don't know how to say the same thing again and again more clearly. You are not in danger of being lynched for Og's sake. You have two votes on you and I will be moving mine to Pleo towards end of Day. I am merely trying to get my ideas out there in case I end up dead. I don't expect to make it to end game. I just want my ideas out there and I'm sorry if that offends you.
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Post by special on May 19, 2009 19:50:19 GMT -5
I can just say this, why no attack on sinjin or anyone else, for questioning my claim when if it was fake IS would have said something? Where did IS say with 100% certainity that you are Town? We had to have close to the same PM and while not exact I am 100 percent sure that he is legit or a real detective would have emerged. And if he is real and we have almost the same PMs?? How is having similar PMs any confirmation? I've had Scum PMs where all I had to do was change "Scum" to "town" and delete the information about the Scum board and I had a beautiful Town looking PM. Exactly right, she and others can get by with smudging me so bad I feel shit covered. That is scummy, scummy scummy scummy. She's not smudging you. She's saying she thinks you are Scum and she's backing it up. And I refuse to jab with sinjin and now with you. I am not allowing her to point out how scummy I am again, and again, and again (x12 more or so) without it going unanswered. I look at people playing in two ways, they're smart or they're scum. If you cannot put things together in your head I don't believe you're dense, I believe you're scum. Your fixation on sinjin and your claim to not waht to 'trade jabs' despite that being specifically what you are doing seems to fit your definition for scum and, in other news, to move us farther from the hammer for now unvote pleo
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 19, 2009 19:55:58 GMT -5
So... I'm not sure what to think... I think Pleo is lying about being invulnerable to lynch.... but does everyone else? You all know he did come out and say that he cannot be lynched right? Just want to make sure no one missed it....
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Post by sinjin on May 19, 2009 20:15:09 GMT -5
So... I'm not sure what to think... I think Pleo is lying about being invulnerable to lynch.... but does everyone else? You all know he did come out and say that he cannot be lynched right? Just want to make sure no one missed it.... Yeah, well yesterDay he insisted that being kill resistant meant only Night-kill resistant not lynch resistant. So WTFKs? I don't think we can come to any consensus on another target today so I'm going with Pleonast at end of day. If he ends up alive at dusk I'm clueless. Maybe we just give the game to him, take our ball and go home.
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Post by special on May 19, 2009 20:15:17 GMT -5
At #204, Special Ed votes Pollux, thusly: EDITED to include the quotes that were included in my original voting post:The above just doesn’t make sense to your narrator, folks. There were several players arguing that Pleo should live. On Day Two, I was one of them. Why didn’t Special Ed vote for me? Why are there only Scum or PFK motives for wanting Pleonast to live? Furthermore, if only Scum or PFK would want Pleonast to live, why is Special Ed casting a vote that makes it more likely that Pleonast will, in fact, live? Add to that the fact that Ed’s vote puts Pollux in the lead over Sister Coyote, and Special Ed comes out of this post looking Scummy. Add in Sachertorte's comments in post 1.182 which I mention in my vote (it's a long post where he questions Pollux on the post that I quoted in part) And this part makes even less sense: because this was Day 1, (I can't read the future) and I was voting for Pollux who seemed to want to allow Pleo to live uncondionally, not just for the opportunity for a Vig to take a shot at them. I voted for Pleo on Day 2. My vote would have allowed Pleo to live for Day 1, to allow said opportunity for a Vig to act, before voting for him on Day 2, as I did. Yes, my vote put Pollux in the lead over Sister. I didn't know Sister would turn up Scum. Pollux's play seemed scummier to me.
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Post by Inner Stickler on May 19, 2009 22:25:41 GMT -5
zlw's PM is very similar to mine. Right now, I'm operating on the assumption that he's town. It seems odd to me that he would be scum but I don't know.
I voted reluctantly for Pleonast Yesterday because I hoped it would get him out of the way and then we could find scum. It didn't work and I kind of just want to ignore him now.
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Post by Pollux Oil on May 19, 2009 23:44:31 GMT -5
This crap is bananas.
ZLW - You're playing anti-town with your reasoning. Stop it. I have a rolled-up newspaper, and I will smack you on the nose with it if you don't stop.
This Pleonast crap is crazy. If you guys lynch him again, and he doesn't die and then he's still alive on Day 4, what are we gonna do? Try to lynch him a third time?
This entire thing is just...ugh. I have no idea where to start, end, go through the middle.
BLARGH.
Vote Kat
For same reasons as yesterDay, along with the fact that I subscribe to storyteller's idea that there was at least one scum that voted for Sis Coyote, and Kat is one of the options in there.
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Post by zlw on May 20, 2009 7:18:37 GMT -5
I don't think of my playstyle as anti-town. I am just done defending myself against the relentless sinjin* smears.
Still waiting on hearing from KidV if my reasoning for watching Pleo was suitable for him?
* I do know this is just a game and please do not take anything I say as hostile or being a poopie head.
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Post by The Real FCOD on May 20, 2009 7:53:50 GMT -5
Nope. Vote count: Pleonast (5) - Storyteller, BillMc, Almost Human, Paul, Roosh zlw (2) - sinjin, KidV sinjin (1) - zlw Kat (1) - Pollux AttentionNanook will be replacing Boozahol Squid, PI. After this, there will be no subs, only modkills. --FCOD
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Post by sinjin on May 20, 2009 8:04:44 GMT -5
* I do know this is just a game and please do not take anything I say as hostile or being a poopie head. I'm fine as long as you don't start posting with a ginormous font. Too late, I already think you're a poopie head.
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Post by sinjin on May 20, 2009 8:16:31 GMT -5
NETA: my bunny got cut off at the end there.
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Post by Pleonast on May 20, 2009 9:40:55 GMT -5
Yeah but TL just because you don't want to vote for Pleo how about a vote for you're second scummiest. You've played the game a lot. Not voting three days in a row = not good. You are climbing my ladder of scummitude. If Total Lost has not had a standing voting after three Days, I am going to suspect that her role uses a lack of a vote for some purpose. And if you do, then NAF is right... now is not the time to try to lynch her. Keep it in the back of your mind, and when it gets more narrowed down we can lynch her... as it is, the scum know that we think she is the godfather and are more likely to leave her alive if she is town just to savor that WIFOM. So if she is scum, they aren't gonna kill her, but if she isn't then she pretty much has a pass until the real godfather is dead. I for one don't think it is worth it to take a chance at losing even a nilla townie for a shot at a pretty much powerless scum. This looks like a slip: paul is stating that the godfather is "pretty much powerless". How could a Townie know that? If i were in his shoes- and my role is being questioned- I would try to post all parts of it, especially when the parts he feels he is "misreading" don't really seem that confusing- with the Omitted portion he seems to have an out- as it makes me (and probably others) think, "oh, well even if I don't think that "alignment=Town" could be misread, maybe there's something in the Omitted parts?) But then holding back that information when being questions really is suspicious. (underlining added for emphasis) And again you completely miss the point I've been trying to make. I'm trying to be killed, so that I can't be recruited. I simply don't care if you question my role or think I'm suspicious. I don't think you're stupid, Ro0sh, so your continual misinterpretation of my motivations is highly suspect. OTOH I can just say this, why no attack on sinjin or anyone else, for questioning my claim when if it was fake IS would have said something? We had to have close to the same PM and while not exact I am 100 percent sure that he is legit or a real detective would have emerged. And if he is real and we have almost the same PMs?? You need to buy a vowel? 1+1=2 No matter how badly scum are trying to say it doesn't. Exactly right, she and others can get by with smudging me so bad I feel shit covered. That is scummy, scummy scummy scummy. The two Anchors are exactly like the Groupies--you don't confirm each others alignment. Confirming a role isn't enough. The scum are going to have a real easy time this game if players keep thinking others are confirmed when they're not.
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Post by Total Ullz on May 20, 2009 10:54:12 GMT -5
*lol* I just looked at the players list and it seems Nanook is subbing for Squid. I wonder if he'll post more or less than squid did ;D <-- joke AH, it's a joke
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Post by Total Ullz on May 20, 2009 10:55:07 GMT -5
*lol* I just looked at the players list and it seems Nanook is subbing for Squid. I wonder if he'll post more or less than squid did ;D <-- joke AH, it's a joke Arrgghh, the MOD already said it
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Post by Merestil Haye on May 20, 2009 12:18:40 GMT -5
Let's start with the vote.
Vote: Pleonast
I'm hoping that either Pleo's power to avoid lynching is a one-shot, or that his lynch will be diverted to the player who can't vote, in either case resulting in Pleo's death.
Second, I have an unexpected chance to roleplay tonight, as our group's host is free. I'll be restarting the campaign in the Temple of Elemental Evil, and hoping not to TPK the group. (Last time I ran this, the two Dwarves died in a single round...) I'm making sure I leave a vote behind and meet the five-post minimum, all at once. Since this makes it six votes on Pleo, which is a goodly number short of the countdown starter, and there's only 26 hours left in the Day, I don't think there's much risk of an unexpected hammering.
Thirdly, on Zach.
I don't find his decision to trail Pleo last Night a particularly inexplicable one. Pleo presents a thorny problem that the Town will have to solve, and maybe Zach hoped to get a little information that might be leveraged into an understanding of Pleo. That's not a bad motivation. It didn't work, but I'm not going to suspect him for doing that.
I do think that the ELE would find a Tracker role useful in some circumstances; it could enable them to home in on Town power roles more quickly. Consequently his role, by itself, doesn't really incline me to clear him. So at the mo he's still under scrutiny.
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Post by Natlaw on May 20, 2009 12:57:10 GMT -5
- Ro0sh places an OMGUS vote for Kat! (didn't want to vote Pleonast, so Kat! got it). Nice. An OMGUS, huh? Except I never voted for Kat. Check the final Vote Counts. I was one of the earlier Pleo Votes, and I stayed on it, dude. This is the 2nd time my Vote has been misattributed. I believe Sinjin did this Day 2, and now you- who's gonna be the guy who messes up my vote toMorrow? Sorry, I got you confused with Pollux (and I even did notice you got swapped with Kat! in this vote count). So Pollux voted Kat! because he was annoyed by the nitpick over groupie-is-not-a-mason. He didn't want to vote Pleonast and Kat! me-too made it like it even less, so she got the vote.
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Post by Total Ullz on May 20, 2009 13:40:18 GMT -5
Sachertorte’s post regarding Total Lost at #163 is extremely interesting. I recommend reading it in its entirety. He points out: (1) a possible language slip, which is of limited utility; and (2) a seeming effort to connect the alignments of various players in an “if-then” kind of way that doesn’t really connect. There’s some back-and-forth about this, but nothing really comes of it. My post is here: www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=6#46265Sachertorte's is here: www.idlemafia.com/index.cgi?board=threeclan&action=display&thread=911&page=6#46271I said: Even if I was Town a post like that could make it easy for scum to say later:" Look! Signs of scum-buddies" or if I was scum make me look really good after a mis-lynch going:"See I told you so".
So I would love to know why you felt the need to make a post saying you didn't have Sinjin on your suspicion list.That is because I'm polite! What I should have said was: Even if you were Town a post like that could make it easy for scum to say later:" Look! Signs of scum-buddies" or if you were scum make you look really good after a mis-lynch going:"See I told you so".
So I would love to know why you felt the need to make a post saying you didn't have Sinjin on your suspicion list.I don't think there would be more to it. So why would Story get a ping out of this? Language - maybe... /Oog Story: you scare me like crazy. If it had been any other player I would have voted right away - it have now taken me over 8 hours to work up the courage!!!!/ But I also think Story has made a great way to "build" a case on me based on a dead (and therefore confirmed) town-player. So while I agree on the lynch of Pleo I'll Vote Storyteller
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Post by The Real FCOD on May 20, 2009 13:43:51 GMT -5
Vote count:
Pleonast (6) - Storyteller, BillMc, Almost Human, Paul, Roosh, MHaye zlw (2) - sinjin, KidV sinjin (1) - zlw Kat (1) - Pollux Storyteller (1) - Total Lost
--FCOD
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Post by Paulwhoisaghost on May 20, 2009 13:46:09 GMT -5
PLEO.... me saying that the godfather is pretty much powerless is a slip? How so? I've never seen a game were the godfather had any power other than the latent ability to be investigated as town. Once that has occured what power would the godfather have? I have never seen or heard of an otherwise powered godfather. Do you know something that would imply otherwise? Or are you just slinging shit?
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Post by Total Ullz on May 20, 2009 14:02:35 GMT -5
PLEO.... me saying that the godfather is pretty much powerless is a slip? How so? I've never seen a game were the godfather had any power other than the latent ability to be investigated as town. Once that has occured what power would the godfather have? I have never seen or heard of an otherwise powered godfather. Do you know something that would imply otherwise? Or are you just slinging shit? In some games the godfather will do the Night-kill. So (s)he has the power to deside who's killed...
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